“Rebel Routes” are Zwift rides that are not available on Zwift’s routes list, thus requiring manual navigation. The reward for your rebel ride? Exploring a new route, knowing you’ve gone where few Zwifters have gone before. And a Strava segment rank in the tens or hundreds instead of the thousands!
Here are all of Zwift Insider’s Rebel Routes. Enjoy!
Big Flat 8 (Watopia)
- Distance: 29.2km (18.1 miles), Elevation Gain: 89m (292′)
- Ride a long, flat route on Watopia without covering the same tarmac again and again! This is the flattest route on Watopia apart from Tempus Fugit, and it’s much more scenic.
- Read all about this Rebel Route >
Canyon to Cavern (Makuri Islands)
- Distance: 13.41km (8.33 miles), Elevation Gain: 87m (284′)
- We think the connector roads between Urukazi and Neokyo/Yumezi are some of the coolest parts of the Urukazi expansion, so we made this route which takes you on the shortest loop possible covering both of these connector roads.
- Read all about this Rebel Route >
Castle Crit (Makuri Islands)
- Distance: 3.5km (2.1 miles), Elevation Gain: 41m (133′)
- A twisty, pitchy loop using the roads of Yumezi’s Castle area. Start at the pens near Village Onsen for a flattish lead-in, then climb up to the circuit and do as many laps as the race organizer desires! Suggested by Anders Fougner.
- Read all about this Rebel Route >
Cliffside Epic Double (Watopia)
- Distance: 52.71km (32.75 miles), Elevation Gain: 991m (3,252′)
- Ready for a bit of climbing? This route is a longish one up the Epic KOM in both directions, with some flats in between. Suggested by James Bailey.
- Read all about this Rebel Route >
Dirty Temple KOM Loop (Makuri Islands)
- Distance: 4.37km (2.7 miles), Elevation Gain: 75m (247′)
- Grab your gravel bike for this one, because it’s all dirt. This short loop takes you up repeated partial climbs of the all-dirt Temple KOM. A great route if you’re looking to do some VO2 intervals!
- Read all about this Rebel Route >
Down Up Down (Watopia)
- Distance: 49.35km (30.7 miles), Elevation Gain: 1257m (4,124′)
- Planned along the same theme as the infamous Badwater Ultramarathon, this route takes you from the lowest point on Watopia to the highest point then back again. Suggested by Craig Devonshire.
- Read all about this Rebel Route >
Epic Loop (Watopia)
- Distance: 14.4km (9.2 miles), Elevation Gain: 378m (1,240′)
- A climber’s dream! This loop begins atop the Epic KOM, descends to the bypass road, cuts across, then climbs up. Perfect for ~20-minute sweetspot intervals.
- Read all about this Rebel Route >
Fower Power (Scotland)
- Distance: 19.74km (12.27 miles), Elevation Gain: 214m (702′)
- Complete each of the four (“fower” in Scots) loops of the Scotland map in a counterclockwise direction, starting in Glasgow at the southwest side of the map and working your way northeast to the Tower area.
- Read all about this Rebel Route >
Glasgow Crit Circuit Reverse (Scotland)
- Distance: 2.98km (1.9 miles), Elevation Gain: 33m (108′)
- Does what it says on the tin: it’s the reverse version of the official Glasgow Crit Circuit route.
- Read all about this Rebel Route >
Hilly KOM Bypass Loop (Watopia)
- Distance: 2.5km (1.6 miles), Elevation Gain: 31m (101′)
- A pitchy little number covering the upper portion of Watopia’s oldest climb, “the KOM”. Great for building sprint/anaerobic power by going easy on the descents and all in for the climbs.
- Read all about this Rebel Route >
KOMonster (Watopia)
- Distance: 99.8km (62.1 miles), Elevation Gain: 2570m (8433′)
- Our most challenging Rebel Route! Take on every timed KOM segment on Watopia, since no official Zwift routes accomplish this.
- Read all about this Rebel Route >
Mangrove Circuit (Makuri Islands)
- Distance: 1.88km (1.17 miles), Elevation Gain: 13m (42′)
- Our smallest Rebel Route to date, this twisty circuit keeps you on the Mangrove Maze portion of Urukazi.
- Read all about this Rebel Route >
Nessie’s Loop (Scotland)
- Distance: 1.89km (1.17 miles), Elevation Gain: 15m (49′)
- Our smallest Scotland Rebel Route, this quick loop always has the Loch in its center and includes the rarely-ridden Breakaway Brae Reverse climb each time around.
- Read all about this Rebel Route >
Outer Scotland (Scotland)
- Distance: 11.14km (6.92 miles), Elevation Gain: 99m (324′)
- Covers Scotland’s outermost roads in a clockwise direction, starting and ending in Glasgow.
- Read all about this Rebel Route >
The Perimeter (Watopia)
- Distance: 82.3km (51.2 miles), Elevation Gain: 1874m (6,147′)
- Covering the entire perimeter of Watopia, this route is just like Bigger Loop except it adds the radio tower and Alpe du Zwift climbs. Suggested by Jeff Cottrell.
- Read all about this Rebel Route >
Petite Douleur (France)
- Distance: 13.86km (8.6 miles), Elevation Gain: 177m (580′)
- This route covers the smallest possible circuit on the France map. Each lap ends atop the Petite KOM, making this a butt-kicker of a racecourse – which is why we named it Little Pain.
- Read all about this Rebel Route >
The Snake (Watopia)
- Distance: 77.4km (48.1 miles), Elevation Gain: 661m (2170′)
- A true “Out and Back” route that covers most of the roads in Watopia proper in both directions, meaning you’ll hit 5 timed KOMs and 3 timed sprints.
- Read all about this Rebel Route >
Sgurr 8 (Scotland)
- Distance: 12.62km (7.84 miles), Elevation Gain: 150m (492′)
- A figure 8 route that takes you up and over the Sgurr’s gravel climb twice, but also lets you enjoy some of Scotland’s best scenery.
- Read all about this Rebel Route >
Spiral Into the Volcano (Watopia)
- Distance: 55.6km (34.6 miles), Elevation Gain: 324m (1,064′)
- This long, flat route makes an ever-tightening spiral which culminates in the spiral climb up the volcano.
- Read all about this Rebel Route >
Toutes les Routes (France)
- Distance: 104.8km (65.1 miles), Elevation Gain: 1968m (6,458′)
- We wanted a route that covered all the roads in France… so we made one! This is our longest Rebel Route yet, and the first to break 100km.
- Read all about this Rebel Route >
Urukazi Flats (Makuri Islands)
- Distance: 7.51km (4.67 miles), Elevation Gain: 22m (71′)
- Take the flattest route possible around the Urukazi Island complex so you can see all three sections with minimal elevation gain.
- Read all about this Rebel Route >
Tamed Rebels
Several routes that began as Rebel Routes eventually made it into Zwift! We’ve removed them from the list above, but you can see the details of the official Zwift routes below:
- Downtown Titans
- Eastern Eight
- Italian Villas Circuit
- Mayan Bridge Loop
- Seaside Sprint
- Three Little Sisters
- Triple Flat Loops
- Watopia’s Waistband
Got Suggestions?
Got an idea for a Rebel Route? Share below, and it just might make the official list!
What route are you talking about?
Dear Eric,
During the last 48 hours or so, there have been drastic changes made on Strava/Insider Verified Routes. What have you done? The Route Hunter leaderboard yesterday was blown apart, and at one point NO ONE had completed the Watopia Figure 8 Reverse Course?! Now some have appeared to have it put back, but mine’s not appearing (though it was there previously)… https://www.strava.com/activities/3975431201 What’s going on?
I would love to know the outcome to this thread. On my route hunter leader board the same has happened to the volcano route too. I cant seem to add them back…
Just seen this on veloviewer…. facebook page…. Morning all. Lots of people getting in touch about a few segments no longer showing times/ticks in the Zwift Insider leaderboards. Eric from Zwift Insider creates and maintains the list of segments used in these leaderboards and he sends me the list of segment ids to use. After Strava’s changes last week he took the opportunity to correct a few segments where the start/end weren’t exactly in the right place e.g. Volcano Circuit, Flat Route, Figure 8 Reverse on Watopia (Short) leaderboard. UPDATE: We’ve swapped Volcano back to the old segment so that… Read more »
Blame Strava. @eric didn’t do anything (in fact, I believe he got them to put back/keep some of the Strava segments).
There’s a post on here that talks about it
Ok here it is, the best route. Cipe Repeat Route.
https://www.strava.com/activities/6224670024
Start at the jungle pens. U-Turn and climb the reverse epic for an ‘epic’ lead-in. Then once at the top your lap starts at the arch. Head downhill to the bypass road and make a left. At the end of the bypass road make another left and head back up the reverse epic. Once you reach the top you are done with lap one. Half the course is downhill so it should be a pretty easy course to do laps on 🙂
My rebel route (unless someone else have already posted it) is basically a reverse of Watopias Waistband but starting in Downtown Watopia. You can stat by selecting “Ocean Lava Cliffside Loop” but at 8.2 when you can see the Epic KOM reverse, you take a left turn avoiding the big climb but down in the Sequioa Circle, you turn right towards the Epic KOM. But as you climb out of the tunnels and see the Epic KOM looming before you, take a left again towards the Desert then right towards the Desert. From here you cross the Flats and at… Read more »
I like to do a route that combines ‘Sand and Sequoias’ with the ‘Watopia Flat Route’, linked together by the bridge between Ocean Boulevard and Fuego Flats. I usually do S&S first, turn left as I come out of the National Park to go over that bridge and then left again onto OB to do the Flat Route clockwise, and then once through Downtown, return to Fuego Flats over the bridge again. I call it ‘The British Isles’ because, well, the route looks a bit like the British Isles leaning over a bit. It’s around 34km and 250m elevation I… Read more »
So would it be possible to load the segment into a garmin and ride the route with navigational options. I believe it is possible to take a gpx and make this into a zwift file. Would it then be possible to ride a rebel route?
I wouldn’t think so, since Zwift’s roads can’t be loaded into Garmin’s maps.
Triple flat loops RR seems not to be working anymore. Just done it and nothing showing on Strava
Are we supposed to see something particular in Strava for these Rebel Routes?
@guest_34452 you should see the Zwift Insider verified segments for the routes, yes.
Due to the amount of useless Strava segments associated to a Zwift route, I had to use Strava in a browser to unhide the two segments: The Snake and Downtown Titans. Both of these are Zwift Insider Verified but were flagged as hidden so not visible in the Strava app.
Just did my first Rebel Route. Triple Flat Loops. Strava Segments in Zwift are completely overdone. I wish Strava would allow Zwift / Zwift Insider to determine the Strava segments on Zwift. I suspect they would be limited to sprints, climbs, routes and other more significant sections rather than .3 miles of random road which seem to be everywhere.
I did a rebel route which I really liked. Starting Downtown ride the watopia wasteband until you’re back Downtown
From there head east, Climb Titans Grove north to south, head west and then north up Ocean’s Boulevard towards Downtown, but before you reach it turn left and ride the Hilly Route until you cross the Downtown Finish a 2nd time. The route is 51 km long and covers an elevation of 338m. Which for 51km is rather flat, I think.
Hi Eric, I have been attacking the Rebel Routes as I have completed all my Zwift badges. I rode the Eastern Eight yesterday and it did not register on VeloViewer for some reason, I followed the directions precisely. What am I missing? Thank you for all your content, I have referred many Zwifters to your blog. Kris
Do I have write down all the direction notes to do aRebel Route?
Not if you have a photographic memory! Or a printer.
But yes, you’ll want the list of turns. That’s part of the challenge.
Hi Eric i have a question fo you. When zwift is planning to introduce a new rute or a new scenario?
Could Rebel Route cue sheets include distances (in km or miles), just to help us keep an eye out when getting close to a turn?
Due to the lack of shorter routes with the Titan’s Grove expansion, I’ve been thinking of a few rebel routes for the area including this one: Start at the Downtown Banner heading toward the Zwift KOM, take a left onto Ocean Boulevard, left towards Fuego Flats. Turn right into Titan’s Grove, then a right towards the the Epic KOM and Ocean Boulevard. Take a right onto Ocean Boulevard, then a left towards the Italian Villas. Next, a left towards the Italian Villas, then a right into the Sprint and the Esses. Then take the right towards Downtown after the Esses… Read more »
You should ride the “Downtown Titans” Rebel Route… It’s already set up!
Here is a fun flat route that I like to do when I feel like going fast and don’t want to climb: Select the Flat Route, and roll through the Downtown arch towards the KOM. Take a left onto Ocean Boulevard, and continue all the way to Sequoia Circle, take left towards the Epic KOM. Ride till you turn left towards Fuego Flats up the section of road only ridden when riding the Uber Pretzel or free-riding. Hit the Fuego Flats Reverse segment, grab the jersey and then hang left towards Downtown after passing the desert start pens. Turn right… Read more »
This route is for those who want to ride every single road in Watopia in one direction, but in the shortest possible distance: Select the Hilly Route to begin, then head up the KOM. Descend the KOM, hang right towards the Italian Villas, then left toward the Volcano. Take the Volcano CW around, then up and down the Volcano KOM, continue CW around the Volcano through the banner and past the KOM junction. Hang left towards Downtown on the glass bridge, then another left at the Sprint Junction. Head through Downtown then left along Ocean Boulevard. Take another left towards… Read more »
Hi, how Long is your proposed Route?
My idea for a rebel route is like the badwater challenge. Go from the lowest point in watatopia to the highest point and back again. Simple but brutal
This is a fun idea, actually. We could start in downtown Watopia, to the top of the Alpe, and back home, via the shortest route… hmm…
Is this the new “Down Up Down”? I noticed VeloViewer have got three new Rebel Routes listed and I was looking for the turns – are they coming up on site soon or shall I wing it 🙂
Yes! Full writeup coming soon, but the “Down Up Down” route (we may rename it) was inspired by Craig’s comment above. Nice sleuthing, Brian.
Can’t open Eastern Eight above for some reason.
Me neither.
Also waiting for the writeups of “Down Up Down” and “Petite Douleur” as well. But I found them on the Zwift Insider leaderboards 🙂
Fixed Eastern Eight today!
I’m a newbie to Zwift. Can someone point me to step-by-step instructions on how to do these rides? Thanks
Hi Eric…..will you be publishing a post for the ‘Down Up Down’ route that is listed on the Veloviewer leaderboards?
Sorry…..ignore….just saw your earlier comments….
Gravel route idea: combining reverse Seaside Sprint and the Jungle circuit to create a route that favours the gravel bikes more than Road to Ruins?
Just started zwift this week and did part of idea for figure 8 route , start at DT/ pier, Hill loop reverse, turn over to titan reverse before DT/pier, over titan reverse, then up ocean to hilly forward and around, then back down Ocean to Titan Forward and finish back at pier/finish banner. About 600meters gain and 52 KM
Route ideas called 6 Rings in lower parts of watopia. Rolling/hilly route of a couple hours. Start at Downtown and head into Volcano CCW. Then once one lap done head over to the Feugo Flats via the land bridge/small gravel climb /little italy onto ocean road and sequoia circle. Turn to epic but then turn into desert once out underwater tunnel. Funego reverse over to ocean and down to hill reverse. Down and over to titans grove, geyser first and dinos on the way out. Back under the ocean to little Italy into the Esses for the finish at the… Read more »
For an early add on to the 6 Rings route idea is Volcano climb early on after the falter lap of the volcano, then once down cross the land bridge over to little italy.
Did the 6 rings route yesterday. 37miles about 1400feet gain over 2hrs to finish. A possible add on is volcano climb on the way to the finish before the drop down to the pier. Turn to the Volcano climb using the volcano circuit then back down and over to the pier or finish KOM. Great race/ event route D/C = 1 lap, B = 1 lap + volcano climb, A = two laps(turn back on to volcano CCW before dropping down to finish) + volcano climb after second lap.
Hi Eric, I tried The Perimeter rebel route today. Navigation looked easy enough because there’s only three manual turns. I set off on The bigger route and everything went fine till I got to the Radio tower climb. As directed I took the left turn to do the climb but when I came back down I was directed to The castle, i.e. right turn at the bottom rather than left which would take people to the Alpe. Not realising that was the wrong way I took and only realised later on I’d gone completely the wrong way. I don’t know… Read more »
I recently started messing around with manual navigation and then stumbled into Rebel Routes. I really like what I’ve done so far. Have you considered adding cumulative distances for each of the turns and then including turns and distances in a PDF?
Waistband 8.
https://www.strava.com/segments/26351573?filter=my_results
Tick Tock start but go to downtown instead of back to desert; then
Volcano CCW : exit for Italian Village
Right towards 360 Bridge
Right towards Seqoia Circle
RIght towards desert
Start and and End at Sprint Arch
About 20 flat miles so less than hour for most strong riders
Here is my rebel route. I call it Titans 8. Start with Sands and Sequoia, then a lap of Tick TocK followed by a reverse Sands and Sequoia reverse. its 57 km with 400 meters of climbing. Bonus is the chance to ride with two different pace partners. https://www.strava.com/activities/4415595134
Came up with a point to point route called Ruins to Ruins. Can run either direction. Jungle to Desert direction: Pick jungle route and do a lap of the the jungle and out over the pass and down to finishing village and through Italian villas. Around the volcano on the non banner side. Pass through downtown and down ocean blvd. Turn off to epic and then into the desert over col de saddle springs and finish at the desert arch. About 22miles/40km. Sprinters chasing the classic/climbers on the flats into the finish. The D to J other direction is start… Read more »
New potential rebel route with the new roads from the December 2020 update. Start with the Two Bridges Loop but instead of going over the 360 Bridge, hang a left onto the Bridge/Islands Bypass and then do endless laps. It probably has a 2.5km lead-in with a 2km loop. You could do a timed event or end at the sprint banner after a number of laps. You could call it the Villaggio Criterio (Italian for village criterium).
Hi Eric, can you please update the manual turn instructions for Three Little Sisters? I got lost in the new Zwift roads 🙂
ok i had a look at the map and i think the only extra turn is to go straight after 360 bridge (otherwise you take a shortcut to sprint). will test tmrw. cheers
Here’s a suggestion I came up with because I wanted a route with all the new roads and a good length (for me). I call it the “Bigger Bypass Loop”. Start with the Bigger Loop. Take the turn into Titan’s Grove (you can see that as the first bypass). Continue towards the Epic KOM, but directly after the bridge, turn right and take the bypass. It’s nicer from this direction, because it goes slightly downhill and has beautiful views. Ride down into the jungle, but don’t miss the turn to the Mayan Bridge. On the other side, climb out of… Read more »
If a miss a manual turn and do a U-turn to get back on course, will my activity still match against the strava segment?
Depends on how quick you notice and make the U-turn. The Strava algorithm has some tolerance, but I don’t know how it is done exactly.
Thanks. I tested this unwillingly in the jungle and failed miserably – i guess the tolerance is rather minimal.
I had an effort match with the Italian Villas sprint despite u turns
Lap one, turned left instead of right, u turn then straight across, it was matched.
2nd lap u turn before the junction, then another u turn before turning right, effort was matched to segment.
3rd lap followed correctly, but due to burning matches on two previous efforts, was not the quickest effort.
There should be an Update of the *Spiral into the volcano*. Idea is to add Titans grove.
Any changes in navigation with any of the rebel routes due to the new roads added? I only have the the two longest KOMonster and Perimeter left so don’t want to mess up. Thanks,
Hey Eric,
I’m thinking of every street of watopia in one go but it will be pretty long. So my aim is to do the shortest possible route. Is there a possibility to plan a route in watopia?
Thank you
Fabian
please update whit new routes
Anyone have problems with instrucctions of Three Little Sisters? After point 1 I missing the route and I finally climbing the Epic Kom. Could anyone update the correct waypoint?
There are some comments in the Three Little Sisters page, I did this today and there’s a few extra because of the new roads.
There are 10 “rebel” routes described here, but there are 15 routes listed on the VeloViewer route-hunter page. Any plans to reconcile?
Edit: the above should read: …”there are 15 routes listed on the VeloViewer Zwift-Insider page. Any plans to reconcile?” Naturally, (as with many other users, detailed turn-by-turn directions (including distances at turn-points in km) would be useful to include.
Hi all – are there turn-by-turn directions for Big Flat 8 and Hilly KOM Bypass Loop, I can’t find them anywhere online? I can see the Strava Segments, but I can’t work out where I’d need to start and where I’d need to turn!!
Those are quire easy to navigate. Use the map to create turns on your own: https://zwiftinsider.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Watopia-2.14.pdf or
Completed some rebel routes yesterday. Hilly KOM bypass and Italian Villas.
Strange thing happened on Italian villas sprint route, on the second right turn after the start/finish line, the default direction was left, but pressing the right arrow key made no difference. I had to press the left arrow to turn right, very counter intuitive and not what had happened at the first right turn.
Anyone else had this issue?
Otherwise, liking the rebel routes, gives me something to aim at as my remaining zwift route badges are all on the long side.
Yeah, it’s a bug Zwift needs to fix. Happens on the Epic KOM Bypass as well.
I was thinking of the route I use for my festive500 TT bike solo as a Rebel route.
https://www.strava.com/activities/4541752561 it’s 29km with 187m of elevation.
One lap off course.
It’s 29km with 187m of elevation.
I’d call it Fires, views and flats.
I was interested in finding the shortest way to ride Titans Grove in both directions. Here’s the route I settled on. Approaching from the Desert Flats, head through Titans Grove Reverse then turn towards the Epic KOM. Take the Bypass and loop back towards the Desert via Sequoia Circle. Turn left to navigate Titans Grove Forward then choose right for an early finish or left towards Ocean Boulevard and a quick pass over the Hilly KOM. Cut through the KOM Bypass towards Downtown then back along Ocean Boulevard and out to the Desert Flats once more, either turning right into Titans Grove… Read more »
Here is a suggested new route from Jad Delokk Watopia’s Beer Gut Most of Watopia’s Waistband with a bulge to the East to West direction of the KOM bypass (the opposite direction to the Ocean Lava Cliffside Route). Start: Choose Tick Tock Route 2.4km Lead in to Start/Finish at Fuego Flats sprint banner. Intersections: 1. Straight to Epic KOM 2. Left to Epic KOM 3. Left to Epic KOM 4. Right to KOM Bypass 5. Right to Italian Villas at 4-way Intersection 6. Left to Italian Villas 7. Left to Italian Villas 8. Left to Volcano Circuit 9. Straight to Volcano Circuit 10. Left to Volcano Circuit 11. Left to Downtown 12. Left to Downtown 13. Left to Ocean Blvd… Read more »
Further to my previous post, here is Cliffside Titans with an additional Figure 8 trek around the Jungle. Enjoy! MAYAN TITANS Select “Dust in the Wind”, “Quatch Quest” or “Muir and the Mountain” 0.5 km Left at Titans Grove / Ocean Blvd 4.0 km Ahead at Winding Peak / Repack Ridge 9.5 km Right at Desert Flats / Epic KOM 10.7 km Left at Epic KOM / Sequoia Circle 13.0 km Right at Epic KOM / Epic KOM Bypass 15.5 km Ahead at Reverse Epic KOM / Jungle/Alpe / Italian Villas 18.5 km Left at Jungle Reverse / Jungle/Alpe 21.1 km Right at Mayan Loop Reverse / Mayan Bridge 22.8 km Left at Mayan Loop / Mayan Loop Reverse 23.4 km Ahead at Jungle… Read more »
Last alternative direction should read: at 54.8 km Ahead at Desert Flats / Titans Grove. Oops, my bad.
Baby Loops The release of Two Bridges and Beach Island Loop routes included two new short roads in Watopia. The Baby Loops route takes you along both those new roads in the reverse direction to those official routes. This is done with a series of counter clockwise loops which also include the volcano and a final pass through both new roads in the normal direction. 27.7km 258m Start by choosing the Figure 8 Reverse route and then follow the turns below. Start at Downtown Start/Finish 1. Straight to Sprint 2. Straight to 360 Bridge 3. Straight to 360 Bridge 4. Left to Italian Villas/Sprint (Reverse… Read more »
I tried my first rebel route today: Downtown Titans . I got to turn 8 – left to KOM. Then I encountered another KOM turn (where i went straight on, possibly correctly) then a turn where I headed to sprint (and missed out half the course). This turn doesnt seem to be on your latest watopia poster. I enclose a map of this part of my route. You may wish to check the turns between 8 and 9.
Best wishes
Rory
Maybe I’m just blind, but Veloviewer leaderboards lists several Rebel routes that are not listed above, but they do have their own pages here on zwiftinsider that can be located with some diligent use of your favorite search engine, and two rebel routes that, as near as I can tell, are not mentioned on zwiftinsider anywhere.
What am I missing?
Any information about these Rebel Routes. My Mac won’t show the maps for some reason (just endlessly spins) so I’m a bit stuck as to how to plan rides. Eric must have created them but Zwift Insider details must be low down his list of priorities.
I’m with Rory something strange afoot in Downtown Titans my first attempt at rebel route. I REALLy should start with I have a laughable sense of direction. My family saw the post and were like oh cool like a zwift poster me yeah sure it’s a map though I use it…teen and wife stare in disbelief…you use a MAP to find your way around your little bicycle GAME? Which doesn’t have steering? (OK since recently maybe has didn’t buy it yet). haha. Downtown titans: there were several turns that weren’t listed as not taking and seemed ok, but something around… Read more »
(I’m replying to myself with this book length ramble about everything. TL;DR: the game is fun and when it doesn’t work hey that’s part of the fun as long as can fix it. Eric is a saint/god for this work…damn Eric what is zwift without you? I hope there’s a pot of gold…won’t be huge…but hold out for a POT of it…if not here in karma…you’re set either way. Dude. Mainly…ok first time out and wow didn’t work…so now will have to study/backwards engineer each one…you making me WORK?!? Haha. But maybe you can give a ‘still valid as of… Read more »
While riding this weekend I wondered if there were any Rebel Routes that put together the three roads in Watopia that were released in December 2020 to give you a ride closer to an hour. So I thought of this and tested it this morning. Started on Beach Island loop, but turned to go up to the Cliffside road, back down to the aquarium but turned to go up the Hilly KOM rather than back downtown. Took the Hilly KOM shortcut then down to the Italian Village, Sprint and Esses. https://www.strava.com/segments/28748375?filter=my_results
Eric, I know you have a tonne of other stuff to review and get done but the rebel route section has taken a back seat for a while now. Any thoughts on when these will “catch up” with the rebel routes on the zwiftinsider veloviewer leader board pages?
I tried KOMonster today and ended up doing the hilly loop rwice without seeing the left turn for Sequoia Circle. Any advice? Thanks
Downtown Titans does not work as the description states. All is fine until 7. Straight to Downtown which is automatic, same for 8. Left to KOM also default. The comes the KOM Bypass or continue on KOM which you do as the description doesn’t mention this turn. 9. Italian villas is the to the right and the 10. Right to Sprint is default and so is 11. Downtown. Nothing on Strava after riding through Downtown portal. Total 23.99 km/254m ascent I took screenshot of every turn,since I went slow this time (my second). PS. Maybe the verification on Strava is… Read more »
I just did the same as you. I think the right to Italian vilas may be a shortcut I am yet to have another go to confirm but straight to islands then right at the next one should add the remaining distance.
Hi Eric,
A massive Thanks for putting all of the zwift insider stuff together.
I just attempted the Downtown Titans route and messed it up. I took a shortcut somewhere after the KOM. The KOM bypass isn’t listed in the turn by turns and I think where I went wrong was turning right to Italian vilas instead of heading straight towards the islands. Not sure if zwift have changed the names at some intersections?