Zwift Route Hunter Leaderboards, p/b VeloViewer

Zwift Route Hunter Leaderboards, p/b VeloViewer

The VeloViewer-powered Route Hunter leaderboards were first rolled out in October 2019. They were an immediate hit in the Zwift community because they gave people a tool to track which routes they’ve completed, as well as a competitive leaderboard for anyone wanting to see how they rank against the universe of Zwifters.

Since then, new routes and maps have been added to Zwift, and we’ve created new Rebel Routes as well. All these new routes are added to the Route Hunter Leaderboards soon after their release.

Additionally, in May 2020 Strava made major changes to their services in an attempt to drive subscriber growth. This didn’t change anything if you’re a paying Strava Premium subscriber, but for free users, the Route Hunter Leaderboards no longer show segment times for yourself or others. Instead, they act more as a checklist of which routes you’ve completed.

About the Leaderboards

There are 10 different leaderboards, each containing their own Zwift routes:

Leaderboard rankings are based on points. You receive points for

  1. Completing a particular route/segment (20 points for each), and
  2. How quickly you completed the route

These two numbers are then added together for your total points count for each leaderboard.

Getting Started

Getting your data into the leaderboards is easy! It’s probably easier on a large screen than a smartphone, but it can be done with either.

Start by visiting the Zwift Insider Route Hunter homepage on VeloViewer.

  1. Click “Connect with Strava”. (If you’re already signed into your Strava account in your browser, skip to step 3.)
  2. Log into your Strava account. You will be redirected back to the leaderboards homepage.
  3. Click “View” beneath one of the leaderboard titles.
  4. If you are not yet a member of the Zwift club on Strava, click the link to join the club, click “Join Club”, then return to the leaderboard page and click “Recheck Club Membership”. (If you are already a member of the Zwift club on Strava, skip to step 5.)
  5. Click “Update Your Times” to import your Strava rides into whatever leaderboard you are currently viewing. You may only click this link once per day for each leaderboard.

Using the Leaderboards

Here are a few tips for using the leaderboards:

  • While they will work just fine on a smartphone, the leaderboards are much easier to browse on a large screen.
  • Click any column title in a leaderboard to sort by that column.
  • Click “View” next to the route title to view that segment’s details in VeloViewer. It’s not always clear where particular segments may stop and start, so looking at the actual Strava info is helpful if you’re chasing segment times.
  • Filter by gender using the buttons at the top-right.
  • Clicking a rider’s time for a particular route will take you to their Strava activity, where you can look for reasons to rationalize them beating your segment time 😄

Can You Ride Them All?

Very few Zwifters have ridden every segment in the leaderboards (114 segments as of August 18, 2020). Can you do it?

A Note About Group Ride Efforts

Due to the location of start pens in relation to spawn points and lap start/finish banners, we had to make a choice with some routes when selecting which segment would be used for the leaderboards:

  1. Start from the start/finish banner (eliminating group event traffic) or
  2. Start from the start pens (eliminating free ride traffic) or
  3. Start well after the start pens and start/finish banner, creating a rather wacky segment with an arbitrary start point which isn’t accurate when riders do multiple laps.

We chose to go with #1, because we didn’t want this to be restricted to “event-only” efforts, and we don’t want segments with a weird start point.

This means many of your group ride efforts will not be included in the leaderboard times. This is especially apparent on Watopia routes which begin downtown, since the start pen is located after the start/finish banner. You may also notice it with New York routes, and some other routes in other worlds.

Shout Out to VeloViewer

Ben over at VeloViewer is giving us this functionality free of charge. But if you find it useful, please consider upgrading your VeloViewer account to a Pro or Pro+ account. Cost is only £10-£20 per year, and you get lots of premium features–read more about those here.

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Suggestions or Questions?

Post them below! Thanks for joining in the fun, and Ride On!

About The Author

Eric Schlange

Eric runs Zwift Insider in his spare time when he isn't on the bike or managing various business interests. He lives in Northern California with his beautiful wife, two kids and dog. Follow on Strava

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Federico
Federico
8 months ago

Is this any different than Zwift Power?

Alan Jolly
Alan Jolly
8 months ago
Reply to  Federico

Yes. Think of it as a Strava add on to see all your segments on a table compared to others

Alan Jolly
Alan Jolly
8 months ago

I love the leaderboards. With the new worlds, I’ve found some new inspiration to get riding more. I wish there were leaderboards for running too.

Bengtson Kevin
Bengtson Kevin
8 months ago

What happened to your PDF route list? I found that to be very handy.

Mark C
Mark C (@rdcyclist)
8 months ago

This is GREAT! Thank you so much for setting this up. It will be another tool in the motivational box. Really marvelous!

Dan Aponik
Dan Aponik
8 months ago

How about adding Cobbled Climbs to the Richmond leaderboards?

Mark Bradley
Mark Bradley
8 months ago

I think the only small issue from a badge hunter perspective is that Veloviewer will pick up rides you completed before the route badge existed. I’ve noticed there are often old times I’ve ridden a route according to Strava, but not according to Zwift.

James Metcalfe
James Metcalfe
3 months ago
Reply to  Mark Bradley

Also picks up segments you have ridden as part of another ride (i.e. London loop is part of PRL full and maybe also PRL half) so there will be a time on the leader board even if you may not have completed the course according to zwift.

Mark Leeming
Mark Leeming
8 months ago

I want to unsubscribe from your notifications but I cant see how to do that!

bob
bob
8 months ago

I rode “triple flat loops”, and while strava shows a time for the route, it doesn’t appear on the route hunter in veloviewer. I did make miss a turn buy a few meter but promptly did a few u-turns and go back on track. Incidentally i make the same error when navigating “three little sisters” but that route is appearing on veloviewer. any thoughts on what might be the issue?

Mark Bradley
Mark Bradley
6 months ago

“we had to make a choice with some routes when selecting which segment would be used for the leaderboards”
Couldn’t you have created 2 segments on those routes, one for group rides and one for freerides?

Patrick
Patrick
6 months ago

I’m trying to check off the ‘Richmond KOM Reverse’ and ’23nd St Kom Reverse’ from my Veloviewer Leaderboard but I can’t seem to figure out which route I have to take. I have ridden all the routes in richmond.
Can you advise which route to take?

Peter Schwaller
Peter Schwaller
4 months ago
Reply to  Patrick

Requires manual navigation. Start with any Route and make the turns needed to go backwards on the climbs.

James Metcalfe
James Metcalfe
3 months ago
Reply to  Patrick

just start any course and immediately hit a u turn, then you can’t miss the climbs

Troels Walsted Hansen
Troels Walsted Hansen
5 months ago

I love this leaderboard, great incentive to ride all the routes and improve times.

Would it be possible to do a similar leaderboard for Zwift sprints?

Koen Vanderbeke
Koen Vanderbeke
4 months ago

Hi Ben and Eric, I love Veloviewer, the data insights and the different leaderboards, I love it all. Last year I did a lot of indoor cycling and completed all the Zwift Routes, I was looking for some additional zwift entertainment, and have now decided to also ride all the event only routes too. Maybe it is an idea to also create a event only routes leaderboard and add them to the already existing 118 zwift routes & KOM’s in the current zwift insider leaderboards. It would bring the number of routes and KOM’s to 160. Additionally, a run leaderboard… Read more »

Dave K
Dave K
4 months ago

I have completed all 4 of the new Zwift routes recently and Zwift awarded my the route badges for them but I have not received credit within velo viewer for two of them. The routes are beach island and two bridges loop. Strava doesn’t have me as having completed any “Strava verified” route segments for those routes which I’ve contacted them about but no solve on that end yet. Any thoughts?

Derren Sanders
Derren Sanders
4 months ago
Reply to  Dave K

I have the same issue

Tord
Tord
4 months ago
Reply to  Dave K

The Strava segments are banner-to-banner, but spawn points for the new routes (Beach Island etc) are after the banner, so you have to make a U-turn, pass the banner, and then another U-turn.

James Metcalfe
James Metcalfe
3 months ago
Reply to  Tord

If I start a route, pull a u turn, ride past the start banner and pull another U turn, will it revert to automatically following the route, or will manual navigation be required to compete the segment?

James Metcalfe
James Metcalfe
3 months ago
Reply to  James Metcalfe

answer is yes, tested on two bridges loop

Arthur Rath
Arthur Rath
4 months ago

In your note about group ride efforts you state “This means many of your group ride efforts will not be included in the leaderboard times. This is especially apparent on Watopia routes which begin downtown, since the start pen is located after the start/finish banner. You may also notice it with New York routes, and some other routes in other worlds.” This occurred when I completed it as a free ride, not a group ride. When this occurs, is there a way to manually update the data? How do I get credit for completing a ride that did not update on the… Read more »

Adam Duggleby
Adam Duggleby
4 months ago

There is a fault with the new Flat 8 rebel route Strava Segment, it starts then does two U-turns before it carries on. Not sure who sorts this but thought I’d let you know.

James Metcalfe
James Metcalfe
3 months ago

Is Strava rationalising their zwift segments? I see far fewer segments now and the zwift insider verified segments no longer show up. Also the segments linked from the veloviewer leaderboards seem to have changed i.e. fan flats (zwift insider verified) now juts links to fan flats.

James Metcalfe
James Metcalfe
3 months ago
Reply to  James Metcalfe

On the leaderboards few people are showing as having completed the Volcano circuit. I have the volcano circuit and the 25 laps badge, but apparently no time on the correct segment according to the route hunter leaderboards.

Mitchell
Mitchell (@mitchell)
3 months ago

Hi Eric, does the work Strava are doing explain the “loss” of times for three routes on the Watopia short section of the Veloviewer leaderboards?

Alastair
Alastair
3 months ago
Reply to  Mitchell

Something odd going on here. Looks like Volcano Circuit and Flat Route have had the ZI verified labelling removed from the segment meaning that it’s now showing as not done in my leaderboard. Figure 8 reverse still has the ZI label but the segment is now slighty longer so again now showing as not done in the leaderboards.

Mitchell
Mitchell (@mitchell)
3 months ago
Reply to  Alastair

The strava segment times for Flat Route and Fig 8 Reverse now date from 2016/17…

Tord
Tord
3 months ago
Reply to  Mitchell

And that Figure 8 Reverse strava segement is incorrect, it’s rather second half of Fig 8 forward followed by first half.

Gary James
Gary James
3 months ago
Reply to  Alastair

I’ve had the same problem too.

Tord
Tord
3 months ago
Reply to  Mitchell

You can make Strava find new segments for an old activity by editing the activity and change “Sport” to Surfing/Swimming/whatever, press Save, and then change back to Virtual Ride.

Gary James
Gary James
3 months ago
Reply to  Tord

Thanks. Just done that and worked! The only problem now is that my rankings are way too high as so many others are missing.

Al H
Al H
3 months ago

I love veloviewer and the leaderboards are a quick way to check your progress and give you incentive to do better. I feel it’s missing a leaderboard though. “Event only routes”. Crit city, magnificent 8 etc. These are just as valid as rebel routes.

cheers

Jon
Jon
2 months ago

Zwift starts you on the far side of the banner for Flat Route & Beach Island Loop (and possibly others), but the Strava segment used for the leader-board starts precisely at the banner. So, to get the route badge in Zwift, you just have to ride the route from where Zwift starts you, but to get credit on veloviewer, you have to either do two laps, or a couple of u-turns to get on the correct side of the banner (which may then result in having to manually choose directions at intersections since, according to Zwift, you’ve now abandoned the… Read more »

Jesse Gibbs
Jesse Gibbs
1 month ago

My time for Uber Pretzel was suddenly removed from the leaderboard on VeloViewer. Has the segment changed?

Sven
Sven
1 month ago
Reply to  Jesse Gibbs
  1. Edit your activity (Uber Pretzel) on STRAVA, changing it to any other type of activity besides Virtual Cycling.
  2. Save the change.
  3. Go in and change it back to Virtual Cycling. All done! I had the same issue 😇
Philip H
Philip H
26 days ago

Big Loop and Four Horsemen have disappeared from my Veloviewer results, and those of many other riders too – presumably the routes have been changed in conjunction with Tour of Watopia and the recent mass ride respectively. I can’t revive them on Strava as I didn’t have a record of the activities – funnily enough, I rely on Veloviewer to tell me when I completed the >100 ZI routes, rather than keeping a separate ledger. Any tips on getting these back?

Henry Ashman
Trusted Member
Henry Ashman (@h_j_ashman)
18 days ago
Reply to  Philip H

I’ve seen a similar thing, looks like I’ve got “Four Horseman from Banner”, but the ride won’t pull in the “Four Horsemen (Zwift Insider verified)” segment, even though I fully go around the route (and some). If it was a piddly little route like the volcano then no big deal, I’ll just do it again, but that’s 4-5 hours worth of slogging.

Peter Rajcani
Peter Rajcani
18 days ago

I don’t see all my completed routes showing up. The leaderboard is also missing the Epic KOM which I completed many times (showing as nit completed) and the Zwift reverse KOM which I also have done several times. Whom should I report these issues to?

Peter Rajcani
Peter Rajcani
18 days ago
Reply to  Peter Rajcani

I am also missing Velo Viewer credit for Four Horsemen, Big Loop and Uber Pretzel. I completed Mountain 8 as a part of Tour of Watopia and that one is not showing up either.

Peter Rajcani
Peter Rajcani
15 days ago
Reply to  Peter Rajcani

Found the issue – for both rides (Four Horsemen and Uber Pretzel) Strava didn’t match the segment due to a different starting point. I think that this needs to be fixed since there is no way to control the spawn point where Zwift drops you when you select the route. Here is the link to both rides: Four Horsemen: Zwift: Four Horsemen – 4 new PRs on all major climbs! | Virtual Ride | Strava and Uber Pretzel (note that I extended the ride by about 30 miles): https://www.strava.com/activities/4773252169/segments/27313482/potential-segment-matches Can someone please look into this? This is a great feature… Read more »

Catherine Allen
Super Member
Catherine Allen (@catherinetherunnergirl)
15 days ago

Something is wrong with the Four Horseman Strava segment. I’ve ridden it 3 times (not in events) and I had a time in VeloViewer that disappeared . Having tried the usual changing activity type and then reverting back and also refreshing segments it won’t appear. Also friends did a meet up today on it and one got the segment recognised and the other did not. Finally when I try the Strava segment matching tool you can search for the Four Horseman (Zwift Insider Verified) but you can’t choose it. Looks like a broken segment. Please fix! Riding it again doesn’t… Read more »

MATHEW M ROSE
MATHEW M ROSE (@matrose617)
6 days ago

Does anyone know how to get back the missing routes? I’ve made a few attempts to get the Reverse Figure 8 route back again, and I can see a time on the segment listed as “Zwift Insider Verified” on Strava afterwards, but it doesn’t register with VeloViewer. These are solo rides, not races or group rides. Do I have to set times only as part of a race or group ride in the future for the time to show up? What am I missing?

D Schulthess
D Schulthess
5 days ago
Reply to  MATHEW M ROSE

I went to Strava and used the “crop activity” function to move the start point forward one point. Did it successfully for Four Horsemen, Uber and Big Loop and then clicked “Update your times” in the appropriate VeloViewer leaderboard. This has worked for me in the past, too.

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