Zwift Route Hunter Leaderboards, p/b VeloViewer

The VeloViewer-powered Route Hunter leaderboards were first rolled out in October 2019. They were an immediate hit in the Zwift community because they gave people a tool to track which routes they’ve completed, as well as a competitive leaderboard for anyone wanting to see how they rank against the universe of Zwifters.

Since then, new routes and maps have been added to Zwift, and we’ve created new Rebel Routes as well. All these new routes are added to the Route Hunter Leaderboards soon after their release.

Additionally, in May 2020 Strava made major changes to their services in an attempt to drive subscriber growth. This didn’t change anything if you’re a paying Strava Premium subscriber, but for free users, the Route Hunter Leaderboards no longer show segment times for yourself or others. Instead, they act more as a checklist of which routes you’ve completed.

About the Leaderboards

There are 15 different leaderboards, each containing their own Zwift routes:

Leaderboard rankings are based on points. You receive points for

  1. Completing a particular route/segment (20 points for each), and
  2. How quickly you completed the route

These two numbers are then added together for your total points count for each leaderboard.

Getting Started

Getting your data into the leaderboards is easy! It’s probably easier on a large screen than a smartphone, but it can be done with either.

Start by visiting the Zwift Insider Route Hunter homepage on VeloViewer.

  1. Click “Connect with Strava”. (If you’re already signed into your Strava account in your browser, skip to step 3.)
  2. Log into your Strava account. You will be redirected back to the leaderboards homepage.
  3. Click “View” beneath one of the leaderboard titles.
  4. If you are not yet a member of the Zwift club on Strava, click the link to join the club, click “Join Club”, then return to the leaderboard page and click “Recheck Club Membership”. (If you are already a member of the Zwift club on Strava, skip to step 5.)
  5. Click “Update Your Times” to import your Strava rides into whatever leaderboard you are currently viewing. You may only click this link once per day for each leaderboard.

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Using the Leaderboards

Here are a few tips for using the leaderboards:

  • While they will work just fine on a smartphone, the leaderboards are much easier to browse on a large screen.
  • Click any column title in a leaderboard to sort by that column.
  • Click “View” next to the route title to view that segment’s details in VeloViewer. It’s not always clear where particular segments may stop and start, so looking at the actual Strava info is helpful if you’re chasing segment times.
  • Filter by gender using the buttons at the top-right.
  • Clicking a rider’s time for a particular route will take you to their Strava activity, where you can look for reasons to rationalize them beating your segment time 😄

Can You Ride Them All?

Very few Zwifters have ridden every segment in the leaderboards (over 200 routes+KOMs at this point). Can you do it?

A Note About Group Ride Efforts

Due to the location of start pens in relation to spawn points and lap start/finish banners, we had to make a choice with some routes when selecting which segment would be used for the leaderboards:

  1. Start from the start/finish banner (eliminating group event traffic) or
  2. Start from the start pens (eliminating free ride traffic) or
  3. Start well after the start pens and start/finish banner, creating a rather wacky segment with an arbitrary start point which isn’t accurate when riders do multiple laps.

We chose to go with #1, because we didn’t want this to be restricted to “event-only” efforts, and we don’t want segments with a weird start point.

This means many of your group ride efforts will not be included in the leaderboard times. This is especially apparent on Watopia routes which begin downtown, since the start pen is located after the start/finish banner. You may also notice it with New York routes, and some other routes in other worlds.

A group of cyclists in colorful jerseys participate in a virtual race in a cityscape on Zwift, approaching an archway that reads Back to Work UK. Race stats and a chat are visible on the screen.

Shout Out to VeloViewer

Ben over at VeloViewer is giving us this functionality free of charge. But if you find it useful, please consider upgrading your VeloViewer account to a Pro or Pro+ account. Cost is only £10-£20 per year, and you get lots of premium features–read more about those here.

Changelog

Suggestions or Questions?

Post them below! Thanks for joining in the fun, and Ride On!

Eric Schlange
Eric Schlangehttps://zwiftinsider.com
Eric runs Zwift Insider in the spare time he finds between riding his bike and managing various business interests. He lives in Northern California with his beautiful wife Monica. Follow on Strava

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Federico
Federico
5 years ago

Is this any different than Zwift Power?

Alan Jolly
Alan Jolly
5 years ago
Reply to  Federico

Yes. Think of it as a Strava add on to see all your segments on a table compared to others

Alan Jolly
Alan Jolly
5 years ago

I love the leaderboards. With the new worlds, I’ve found some new inspiration to get riding more. I wish there were leaderboards for running too.

Bengtson Kevin
Bengtson Kevin
5 years ago

What happened to your PDF route list? I found that to be very handy.

Mark C
Mark C
5 years ago

This is GREAT! Thank you so much for setting this up. It will be another tool in the motivational box. Really marvelous!

Dan Aponik
Dan Aponik
5 years ago

How about adding Cobbled Climbs to the Richmond leaderboards?

Mark Bradley
Mark Bradley
5 years ago

I think the only small issue from a badge hunter perspective is that Veloviewer will pick up rides you completed before the route badge existed. I’ve noticed there are often old times I’ve ridden a route according to Strava, but not according to Zwift.

James Metcalfe
James Metcalfe
5 years ago
Reply to  Mark Bradley

Also picks up segments you have ridden as part of another ride (i.e. London loop is part of PRL full and maybe also PRL half) so there will be a time on the leader board even if you may not have completed the course according to zwift.

Mark Leeming
Mark Leeming
5 years ago

I want to unsubscribe from your notifications but I cant see how to do that!

bob
bob
5 years ago

I rode “triple flat loops”, and while strava shows a time for the route, it doesn’t appear on the route hunter in veloviewer. I did make miss a turn buy a few meter but promptly did a few u-turns and go back on track. Incidentally i make the same error when navigating “three little sisters” but that route is appearing on veloviewer. any thoughts on what might be the issue?

Mark Bradley
Mark Bradley
5 years ago

“we had to make a choice with some routes when selecting which segment would be used for the leaderboards”
Couldn’t you have created 2 segments on those routes, one for group rides and one for freerides?

Patrick
Patrick
5 years ago

I’m trying to check off the ‘Richmond KOM Reverse’ and ’23nd St Kom Reverse’ from my Veloviewer Leaderboard but I can’t seem to figure out which route I have to take. I have ridden all the routes in richmond.
Can you advise which route to take?

Peter Schwaller
Peter Schwaller
5 years ago
Reply to  Patrick

Requires manual navigation. Start with any Route and make the turns needed to go backwards on the climbs.

James Metcalfe
James Metcalfe
5 years ago
Reply to  Patrick

just start any course and immediately hit a u turn, then you can’t miss the climbs

Troels Walsted Hansen
Troels Walsted Hansen
5 years ago

I love this leaderboard, great incentive to ride all the routes and improve times.

Would it be possible to do a similar leaderboard for Zwift sprints?

Koen Vanderbeke
Koen Vanderbeke
5 years ago

Hi Ben and Eric,

I love Veloviewer, the data insights and the different leaderboards, I love it all. Last year I did a lot of indoor cycling and completed all the Zwift Routes, I was looking for some additional zwift entertainment, and have now decided to also ride all the event only routes too. Maybe it is an idea to also create a event only routes leaderboard and add them to the already existing 118 zwift routes & KOM’s in the current zwift insider leaderboards. It would bring the number of routes and KOM’s to 160.
Additionally, a run leaderboard could also be created or added.
Just some suggestions, always nice to have a clean overview.
Thanks for all the efforst you guys put into the zwiftinsider and veloviewer sites.

Dave K
Dave K
5 years ago

I have completed all 4 of the new Zwift routes recently and Zwift awarded my the route badges for them but I have not received credit within velo viewer for two of them. The routes are beach island and two bridges loop. Strava doesn’t have me as having completed any “Strava verified” route segments for those routes which I’ve contacted them about but no solve on that end yet. Any thoughts?

Derren Sanders
Derren Sanders
5 years ago
Reply to  Dave K

I have the same issue

Tord
Tord
5 years ago
Reply to  Dave K

The Strava segments are banner-to-banner, but spawn points for the new routes (Beach Island etc) are after the banner, so you have to make a U-turn, pass the banner, and then another U-turn.

James Metcalfe
James Metcalfe
5 years ago
Reply to  Tord

If I start a route, pull a u turn, ride past the start banner and pull another U turn, will it revert to automatically following the route, or will manual navigation be required to compete the segment?

James Metcalfe
James Metcalfe
5 years ago
Reply to  James Metcalfe

answer is yes, tested on two bridges loop

Arthur Rath
Arthur Rath
5 years ago

In your note about group ride efforts you state “This means many of your group ride efforts will not be included in the leaderboard times. This is especially apparent on Watopia routes which begin downtown, since the start pen is located after the start/finish banner. You may also notice it with New York routes, and some other routes in other worlds.” This occurred when I completed it as a free ride, not a group ride. When this occurs, is there a way to manually update the data? How do I get credit for completing a ride that did not update on the leader board if it doesn’t automatically update?

Jeffrey
Jeffrey
5 years ago
Reply to  Eric Schlange

Eric,
I have written the four Horsemen multiple times and the big loop as well and had previously been 15 out of 15 on the walk Topia long routes. It is only in the last couple of months that I have log back on to find that I have drop these routes. I have tried all the tricks that you have suggested and it is clear as others have written that our toil is of no value in getting these routes into Velo viewer. We beg of you, those of us who support your site and those of us Who have paid for a pro subscription to Vello viewer out of our gratitude For the work, that you fix this so we can have accurate records.

Alan Jolly
Alan Jolly
5 years ago
Reply to  Jeffrey

Same here. I’ve tried the various fixes but can’t get my segments back. Amongst the longer rides, I have Four Horsemen and Uber Pretzl which I have already dsone more than once and don’t want to do again. No guarantee that doing it again will work anyway. Unfortunately, I think my use of Veloviewer has also come to an end

Adam Duggleby
Adam Duggleby
5 years ago

There is a fault with the new Flat 8 rebel route Strava Segment, it starts then does two U-turns before it carries on. Not sure who sorts this but thought I’d let you know.

James Metcalfe
James Metcalfe
5 years ago

Is Strava rationalising their zwift segments? I see far fewer segments now and the zwift insider verified segments no longer show up. Also the segments linked from the veloviewer leaderboards seem to have changed i.e. fan flats (zwift insider verified) now juts links to fan flats.

James Metcalfe
James Metcalfe
5 years ago
Reply to  James Metcalfe

On the leaderboards few people are showing as having completed the Volcano circuit. I have the volcano circuit and the 25 laps badge, but apparently no time on the correct segment according to the route hunter leaderboards.

Mitchell
Mitchell
5 years ago

Hi Eric, does the work Strava are doing explain the “loss” of times for three routes on the Watopia short section of the Veloviewer leaderboards?

Alastair
Alastair
5 years ago
Reply to  Mitchell

Something odd going on here. Looks like Volcano Circuit and Flat Route have had the ZI verified labelling removed from the segment meaning that it’s now showing as not done in my leaderboard. Figure 8 reverse still has the ZI label but the segment is now slighty longer so again now showing as not done in the leaderboards.

Mitchell
Mitchell
5 years ago
Reply to  Alastair

The strava segment times for Flat Route and Fig 8 Reverse now date from 2016/17…

Tord
Tord
5 years ago
Reply to  Mitchell

And that Figure 8 Reverse strava segement is incorrect, it’s rather second half of Fig 8 forward followed by first half.

Gary James
Gary James
5 years ago
Reply to  Alastair

I’ve had the same problem too.

Tord
Tord
5 years ago
Reply to  Mitchell

You can make Strava find new segments for an old activity by editing the activity and change “Sport” to Surfing/Swimming/whatever, press Save, and then change back to Virtual Ride.

Gary James
Gary James
5 years ago
Reply to  Tord

Thanks. Just done that and worked! The only problem now is that my rankings are way too high as so many others are missing.

Al H
Al H
5 years ago

I love veloviewer and the leaderboards are a quick way to check your progress and give you incentive to do better. I feel it’s missing a leaderboard though. “Event only routes”. Crit city, magnificent 8 etc. These are just as valid as rebel routes.

cheers

Brent Knutson
Brent Knutson
4 years ago
Reply to  Al H

Navigated over to VV quickly today after the Chase Race on Watopia’s Waistband, only to sulk away after realizing it’s not a tracked route. Womp womp.

Jon
Jon
5 years ago

Zwift starts you on the far side of the banner for Flat Route & Beach Island Loop (and possibly others), but the Strava segment used for the leader-board starts precisely at the banner. So, to get the route badge in Zwift, you just have to ride the route from where Zwift starts you, but to get credit on veloviewer, you have to either do two laps, or a couple of u-turns to get on the correct side of the banner (which may then result in having to manually choose directions at intersections since, according to Zwift, you’ve now abandoned the route you selected and Zwift is just going to take you … who knows where). I’m sure the way Zwift is loosey goosey with the starting point for routes it’s very frustrating for anyone trying to create and maintain side games like this. However, not getting credit for completed routes is equally frustrating for those trying to play the side games.

Jesse Gibbs
Jesse Gibbs
5 years ago

My time for Uber Pretzel was suddenly removed from the leaderboard on VeloViewer. Has the segment changed?

Sven
Sven
5 years ago
Reply to  Jesse Gibbs
  1. Edit your activity (Uber Pretzel) on STRAVA, changing it to any other type of activity besides Virtual Cycling.
  2. Save the change.
  3. Go in and change it back to Virtual Cycling. All done! I had the same issue 😇
Philip H
Philip H
5 years ago

Big Loop and Four Horsemen have disappeared from my Veloviewer results, and those of many other riders too – presumably the routes have been changed in conjunction with Tour of Watopia and the recent mass ride respectively. I can’t revive them on Strava as I didn’t have a record of the activities – funnily enough, I rely on Veloviewer to tell me when I completed the >100 ZI routes, rather than keeping a separate ledger. Any tips on getting these back?

Henry Ashman
Super Member
Henry Ashman(@h_j_ashman)
5 years ago
Reply to  Philip H

I’ve seen a similar thing, looks like I’ve got “Four Horseman from Banner”, but the ride won’t pull in the “Four Horsemen (Zwift Insider verified)” segment, even though I fully go around the route (and some). If it was a piddly little route like the volcano then no big deal, I’ll just do it again, but that’s 4-5 hours worth of slogging.

Peter Rajcani
Peter Rajcani
5 years ago

I don’t see all my completed routes showing up. The leaderboard is also missing the Epic KOM which I completed many times (showing as nit completed) and the Zwift reverse KOM which I also have done several times. Whom should I report these issues to?

Peter Rajcani
Peter Rajcani
5 years ago
Reply to  Peter Rajcani

I am also missing Velo Viewer credit for Four Horsemen, Big Loop and Uber Pretzel. I completed Mountain 8 as a part of Tour of Watopia and that one is not showing up either.

Peter Rajcani
Peter Rajcani
5 years ago
Reply to  Peter Rajcani

Found the issue – for both rides (Four Horsemen and Uber Pretzel) Strava didn’t match the segment due to a different starting point. I think that this needs to be fixed since there is no way to control the spawn point where Zwift drops you when you select the route. Here is the link to both rides:
Four Horsemen: Zwift: Four Horsemen – 4 new PRs on all major climbs! | Virtual Ride | Strava and Uber Pretzel (note that I extended the ride by about 30 miles):
https://www.strava.com/activities/4773252169/segments/27313482/potential-segment-matches
Can someone please look into this? This is a great feature but it is frustrating when I don’t get credit for the most difficult routes.

Catherine Allen
Super Member
Catherine Allen(@catherinetherunnergirl)
5 years ago

Something is wrong with the Four Horseman Strava segment. I’ve ridden it 3 times (not in events) and I had a time in VeloViewer that disappeared . Having tried the usual changing activity type and then reverting back and also refreshing segments it won’t appear. Also friends did a meet up today on it and one got the segment recognised and the other did not. Finally when I try the Strava segment matching tool you can search for the Four Horseman (Zwift Insider Verified) but you can’t choose it. Looks like a broken segment. Please fix! Riding it again doesn’t even guarantee getting it!!!

MATHEW M ROSE
MATHEW M ROSE
5 years ago

Does anyone know how to get back the missing routes? I’ve made a few attempts to get the Reverse Figure 8 route back again, and I can see a time on the segment listed as “Zwift Insider Verified” on Strava afterwards, but it doesn’t register with VeloViewer. These are solo rides, not races or group rides. Do I have to set times only as part of a race or group ride in the future for the time to show up? What am I missing?

D Schulthess
D Schulthess
5 years ago
Reply to  MATHEW M ROSE

I went to Strava and used the “crop activity” function to move the start point forward one point. Did it successfully for Four Horsemen, Uber and Big Loop and then clicked “Update your times” in the appropriate VeloViewer leaderboard. This has worked for me in the past, too.

Wesley Freeburg
5 years ago

You appear to have been making changes/additions to some Watopia (LONG) routes. The Veloviewer ZI leaderboard is no longer pointing to the “from the banner” start points as you suggest in this article above. Accordingly, many persons who were previously recorded as having completed these routes, are no longer captured by the leaderboard. It’s telling that only the tiniest fraction of riders, to wit:

It seems unjust that the actual official routes that one rolls if use the straight, free-ride route selection screen on Zwift (and for which achievement badges are granted) are NOT the routes that the ZI leaderboard points to. At this moment, there are only a fraction of the previous persons on the board that are now being shown to have completed all the Long Watopia routes. The Strava metrics are even more revealing:

Big Loop (from Banner): 172,576 attempts by 98,931 people
Big Loop (ZI): 35,638 attempts by 28,025 people;

Four Horsemen (from Banner): 38,974 attempts by 24,096 people
Four Horsemen (ZI): 1,785 attempts by 1,916 people;

Uber Pretzel: 7,154 attempts by 5,248 people…

In each of these cases, the Veloviewer leaderboard is now indexing to the segments traversed by the FEWEST people – and NOT the official segments one would ride if choosing the route within Zwift. More telling is the fact that there are now, ostensibly, only 58 Veloviewer-registered Strava users that have completed all the Long Routes on Watopia.

Would you please stop tampering with route/segment definitions in this manner, which invariably affects countless Zwifters? I’d appreciate your collaboration with Ben at Veloviewer on this matter to resolve. The fact that you’ve been running “badge hunter” group rides should not be the basis for changing these segment dimensions, which disproportionately affect so many who have relied on your assurances about the routes dimensions as they were originally defined. Thanks! @wesfree

The image below shows my previous status. Now the longest, most awful routes on Zwift are no longer captured!

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yousif
yousif
5 years ago

i noticed a discrepancy in the points, I added the overall totals for each map manually, it adds up to 22.3 more points than what is shown on the main leader board. im guessing its a simple calculation mistake in the programming. just thought id point it out

Matt
Matt
5 years ago

I’ve completed uber Pretzel twice. Once in an event and once in free ride. Neither matched to the segment (though I do have the route badge). Not sure what I’m missing. https://www.strava.com/activities/2829401041

John
John
4 years ago

So I have completed the four horseman route both as a group ride and the start gate but the segment is not showing up. I have the badge. I really do not want to do it again. Any ideas?

Tim
Tim
4 years ago
Reply to  John

On desktop strava website there is a ” Don’t see the segment you’re looking for? ” link on the bottom of the activity, you can try that, might give you an idea.

Tord
Tord
4 years ago
Reply to  John

Try to crop the activity 1 sec in Strava (accessed via tree dot button on activity web page). That often fix issues with segments not showing up.

Allen Horrigan
Allen Horrigan
4 years ago

Great the Makuri board has been updated but I think it’s using the old version of Neon Flats

Robert Martin
Robert Martin
4 years ago

It looks like this is not being updated anymore with the new routes. Have they given up on it?

Tim
Tim
4 years ago
Reply to  Robert Martin

It usually takes a little bit of time for new routes to get added. So far I think only Twilight Harbour and Castle to Castle haven’t been added. Is there anything else missing? Legends and Lava and Climber’s Gambit have been added.

Carl J
Carl J
4 years ago

@Eric Schlange Will the newest Makuri Island routes be added? Noticed that Twighlight Harbour isn’t there.

Thanks

Nate
Nate
4 years ago
Reply to  Carl J

I too am hoping that the new routes are added as they become available. Thanks!

Allen Horrigan
Allen Horrigan
4 years ago

is there any chance of a leaderboard for event only routes. Bologna, crit city, waistband etc. it does encourage more people to do them.

Tim
Tim
4 years ago
Reply to  Allen Horrigan

I’d like to see this! But I’d also like to see a similar thing for every zwift strava segment, so I’m a bit insane.

anderfo
anderfo
3 years ago
Reply to  Allen Horrigan

The event only leaderboard was added a while ago, but it still does not include Bologna (the TT lap uphill, or the up and down segment) and Crit City (both ways). The KOM leaderboard should have included the Bologna Climb as well, in my opinion. Even if it’s event only.

Justin
Justin
4 years ago

Is the Strava Route for Royal Pump Room 8 working properly? Is it really banner to banner? It seems to start at an arbitrary straight segment on the course before the pens.

temps 09
temps 09
4 years ago
Reply to  Justin

It could be that the route for veloviewer starts at the S/F arch which the free ride mode does. The event route from the pens do not go through the S/F arch. It is the same issue for some other routes on zwift with veloviewer. There is list of thoes routes somewhere. So if you have not checked off the route in veloviewer, then have to do the ride in free ride mode.

Tim
Tim
4 years ago
Reply to  temps 09

I think you are right temps 09. The segment Royal Pump Room 8 (from after Start Pen) https://www.strava.com/segments/30929222 was just created.

Colin
Colin
4 years ago

I just refreshed the veloviewer leaderboards for two maps and rather than adding my new completed route times, it actually removed all of my times for the map. Happened on two separate maps (at which point I stopped refreshing the others, which are still showing). I’m still in the Zwift club, and still a paying Strava member. Any ideas?

Colin
Colin
4 years ago
Reply to  Colin

Ok – I’ve figured it out. For anyone else that has this issue – I had tagged my Zwift rides as ‘indoor’ and for some reason it stopped picking them up after I did that – they were no longer recognised in the leaderboards. So don’t do that!

monilee
monilee
4 years ago

I’m bummed that the leaderboards have been updated and some Routes are only counted ig you do them as a group ride. Eg: 4 horsemen and Uber. I put alot of sweat and tears into getting good times on those in small meetup rides – why the change?

Tim
Tim
4 years ago
Reply to  monilee

That’s not correct. The segments for four horseman and uber pretzel were edited so that they count if you are doing an event or a free ride. However editing a segment after people have placed on it causes many of those rides to no longer match the segment (just like if you create a new zwift segment it doesn’t match old rides, it’ll match a few, but not most old rides). You can get your old rides to recalculate segments and they will match the edited segments but it’s a bit tricky. You used to be able to toggle the activity type of the activitiy, the so called “activity type hack”, but that no longer seems to work, see https://zwiftinsider.com/zwift-strava-segment-update/ and the comments. There do seem to be two hacks that still work: trim 1 second from your ride, or download the fit file (either from zwift or by adding “/export_original” to the strava activity url for that activity), then delete the original ride and upload the fit file as a virtual ride. I’d be very careful doing either as there is some amount of data loss in either case (the second you trim in the first case, and the metadata title, kudoes etc of the original ride in the second case)

Bill Joyce
Bill Joyce
4 years ago

Will the Event-Only leaderboard be reinstated? URL not found. Thank you for all the work you’ve done!

Owen
Owen
3 years ago

La Riene not on the France list?

Tris
Tris
3 years ago
Reply to  Owen

It is now, just only the race route!

Hugues
Hugues
3 years ago

Hi, it looks like there has been a reorg in Veloviewer dashboards lately, two weeks ago if I remember well there was 173 segments, since then the new route badge ones have been added and there are now 171 segments, have I missed something ? Thanks !

Chris T
Chris T
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugues

The Event Only page was removed as the routes were in effect duplicates of the Watopia Rebel Routes (Downtown Titans, Triple Flat Loops, 3 Little Sisters) – see Watopia Short. The routes no longer tracked that were in Event Only are Handful of Gravel and Neokyo Crit Course.

Hugues
Hugues
3 years ago
Reply to  Chris T

Thank you Chris ! I missed that, but aren’t any onther routes that have been erased ? Because 5 new routes have been added also, the new badge ones, I do not remeber what was the full content of “event only” category

Chris T
Chris T
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugues

The 6 routes included in Event only were:
Neokyo Crit Course
Handful of Gravel
Downtown Titans
Triple Flat Loops
3 Little Sisters
Eastern Eight (I forgot about this earlier)

Then there was 4 new ride routes recently added (the 5th was a running route), so an overall reduction of 2 in routes/segments. I think that’s how it went.

Bike Links
Bike Links
3 years ago
Reply to  Chris T

Actually that’s too bad I have very special efforts on those two relatively short courses due to the circumstances of the event (hung for lead in and more than a lap with bunch of A’s and pros on Neokyo crit not a power record more pack handling but very hard like good races with surges which shrugged me off finally. Had no idea if I could hang at all but the LA L9GION race series first one big A pack and bunch of pros had to do it just to do it I thought then was pleasantly surprised I hung that long (and did roll out the rest of the race most who were dropped quit I think only 1-2 finished behind me but many more starters). Handful of gravel not sure just had the right rabbits and dig deep was stronger than usual PR for me wattage and time wise.

Rory O'Conor
Rory O'Conor
3 years ago

I enjoy the veloviewer zwift leaderboards, which keep up with the zwift developments. But why has the La Reine segment been changed, probably only by a few hundred meters, so that now event riders no longer get the segment? It is not as though there is a start arch anywhere nearby.

Al H
Al H
3 years ago

Hi

when are you putting Scotland on. Cheers

Al H
Al H
3 years ago
Reply to  Eric Schlange

Thanks

i really enjoy velo viewer but find some of the startpen starts never give you the segment. The main offenders are routes that start in the downtown pens

for example

quatch quest segment starts at the junction after the pens

mountain route starts at the banner so if you start an event in the pens you don’t get the segment.

Chris T
Chris T
3 years ago

Just wondering if Leg Snapper will be added to the KOM segments?

Also any Scotland Rebel Routes coming soon? Can’t beat a new RR 🙂

Chris T
Chris T
3 years ago
Reply to  Eric Schlange

Thanks Eric, Strava’s strict rule on minimum segment distance sucks.

Looking forward to the Scotland RR

Bike Links
Bike Links
3 years ago
Reply to  Chris T

They are fun 👍🏄‍♂️! There’s one in this 2 minute or so zone where I find it sort of an awkward length of effort and like Italian village sprint I find I can do better by I guess digging deeper than SOME of the many stronger than me. I did a pretty solid hard effort for now but not ‘everything goes quiet’ level of ‘die a little bit’ ‘hard.’ I had a coach for a while who thinks everyone’s 100% is the same effort/pain or something like that. It’s a bit of a semantically ‘what does one mean by 100%’ of course in one way of thinking. As I alluded to in a post about the leg an appear there’s bunch of studies looking at that and showing of we do 100% we later can be tricked into doing a faster 100% if we think it’s the same. So i think the ‘100%’ concept isn’t as clear a ceiling as we mostly feel/think it is (me too I am human!!). I think others have times where maybe it wasn’t planned but they hung with a group or similar and looking back did an effort they didn’t think they were capable of. My highest wattage over a range of time are mostly in this one race I did 3 years in a row mant years ago and longer story but yeah I can’t do those watts ‘at will’!

Bike Links
Bike Links
3 years ago
Reply to  Eric Schlange

I don’t mind at all this is all part of the leaderboard game I’m happy inside with how I did and there are many others but I have an amazing (for me especially!) leg snapper and will share the story for fun (I hope!) here . I was (successfully) trying to nail a full lap of innsbrucking with a decent sized A race for the corse time. I am not an A. I knew this course inside out. So used every move I know but then just ripped off those cognitive safety tabs and went beyond my 100% no power watching just everything I had and could wrong out and don’t even remember how it hurt or not (!) didn’t let up at all until I was at downhill speed attached to the lead main group after. It was a special effort! Everything went quiet and dark I do remember like being in a tunnel. Looking at the power for the one minute there’s no inflection point (it had peaked in a smooth slow curve now downward) at the crest so I know I did a good job not letting up at the top which wouldn’t have worked! Fun stuff one and done with my PR there wasn’t targeting THAT segment per se but knew I’d have to do it faster than I ever thought possible or wouldn’t hang for the lap!

Matthew
Matthew
2 years ago

Hi. Long time user, first time commenter… Is there any chance of adding a category to the leaderboard for the climb portal? You would need ‘A or B’ logic to record a completion regardless of the location of the portal you used, but it shouldn’t be too difficult.

Thanks.

anderfo
anderfo
2 years ago

Consider adding the Climb Portal routes?
(preferably, merge the lists from France and Watopia since they’re the same route anyway….)

Tim
Tim
2 years ago
Reply to  anderfo

Not sure I would want to see them in the main leaderboard. Maybe a separate leaderboard just for climb portal?

Hugh G
Hugh G
2 years ago

Are there plans to have a leaderboard for the Climb Portal climbs? Would be a good way of keeping track of completed climbs.

Mark Middleton
Mark Middleton
2 years ago

Just had a look on Road captain today. I wasnt updated to newest version sadly so on Big Flat 8 i went the wrong way at the climb portal. But now on newest version its not there. I think you have only 3 there now Eric. Any chance you can edit any others you still have and put them up Eric? I would hate to get near the end of a long one and go off course…..

Kris G.
Kris G.
2 years ago

Hi Eric
I’ve noticed that the new routes have been added to the leaderboard – great!
But three routes that were formerly rebel routes are now listed in two leaderboards, I assume that is not really the intention? These are the ones now registered twice:

  • spiral in the volcano
  • big flat eight
  • castle crit
Cor van der Linden
Cor van der Linden
2 years ago

Hi @Eric Schlange , are you planning to add the new routes to the leaderboard?

Nate
Nate
1 year ago

Would be great to have the new routes added, as several here have mentioned. Thanks! @Eric Schlange

Cor van der Linden
Cor van der Linden
1 year ago

Thx @Eric Schlange for adding the new routes! 👊

Kiersten ko
Kiersten ko
2 years ago

Can we get an update with the new routes on veloviewer please ?

Donna
Donna
1 year ago

Hi, will the more recent additions be added? For example Mayan Mash?

Dave Laird
Dave Laird
1 year ago

@Eric Schlange Really hoping we’ll get to see a route update at VeloViewer soon. So many new routes added since the last update in April 2024! Could you give us a sense re timing? Thanks!

Mike
Mike
1 year ago
Reply to  Dave Laird

Some new ones have been added in the last couple of days, quite a few on Watopia Short, some Watopia Long and the 77km Makuri route. 218 routes in total now

Last edited 1 year ago by Mike
Dave Laird
Dave Laird
1 year ago
Reply to  Eric Schlange

Woo hoo! Thanks Eric. Gonna be a busy winter working hard through all the new routes.

Nate
Nate
1 year ago
Reply to  Eric Schlange

Hi Eric, some of us are hoping for another update to the VeloViewer leaderboards with the Jarvis routes etc. (see recent “pings” in this thread. 🙂 Any chance of this happening in the near future? Thanks! -Nate

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