Shane Miller (GPLama) has posted a nice article discussing the realism of racing on Zwift.
I was curious to read Shane’s take on the subject because he is an experienced Zwifter with a lot of real-world racing experience (check out his cycling bio). Shane says Zwift feels like real racing in these ways:
My first race on Zwift was the Tuesday Night Worlds, which happens each Tuesday at 3PM my time. I loved it–I was hooked! I wasn’t very impressed with the neutral start, though, and posted a comment about it on the Zwift Riders Facebook group. Much to my surprise Christian Wiedmann, the organizer of the race, responded and explained (graciously) why the races begin with a neutral start. I was impressed with Christian’s patience and obvious desire to get as many folks racing as possible.
Since that time I’ve interacted with Christian on a number of occasions and he has consistently shown himself to be a gracious and helpful guy, one who sees the value of competition but understands the limitations of a virtual platform like Zwift.
Because of all this, I thought it would be fitting if Christian Wiedmann was the first race organizer I interviewed on Zwift Insider.Â
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Tell me a little about yourself–how long you’ve been riding, what sort of riding you do, when you discovered Zwift, where you live, etc.
I live in San Mateo, California, which is in the San Francisco Bay Area. I’m a software engineer working mostly from home, which gives me the freedom to take some time to ride during the day.
I’ve been riding since I was a kid, but mostly casually. I didn’t get into competitive cycling until I was in my late 20s. I raced in amateur races out here for about 5 years, mostly as a Cat 4 rider. I raced both on the road and on the track. I really enjoy the competition even though I was mostly a mid-pack rider.
Since I’ve always worked at small startups, my work schedule eventually made it impossible to train enough to keep racing. I always tried to stay fit by commuting on the bicycle, though.
More recently, I’ve started working part-time so I can spend more time with my kids (ages 7, 4, and 4). This has the side effect of also allowing me to spend a little time on the bike each day. I usually ride indoors because it saves time and allows me to get off and stop the ride any time if something comes up. Before Zwift, I would probably average one outdoor ride a week. Since Zwift I rarely ride outside any more.
I discovered Zwift in late 2014 and was very interested because I have played online games and the melding of gaming and cycling seemed like something I would enjoy. I signed up for the closed beta and was accepted into the beta around Christmas that year. Since then I’ve ridden more than 7200 virtual miles on Zwift.
How would you describe your philosophy as a race organizer? What is most important to you when organizing Zwift races?
My goal is for the Zwift training races to recreate the intensity and excitement of real-world mass-start bicycle racing as much as possible in Zwift. I want to make these races open and accessible to as many Zwifters as possible. Above all, I want these to be a fun experience for all who join.I see these races primarily as training races right now. With the variety of equipment out there, we have to accept that performance isn’t necessarily the same as in real life, but the feel of the racing can be similar in many ways. While the results are not real, the intensity and fun are most definitely realistic.
What race(s) are you currently organizing on Zwift, and how long have you been doing them? What makes these races different than other Zwift races?
I organize three of the ZTR races – the Tuesday Night Worlds for North America and the two ZTR races on Thursday – UK/Europe and Americas. The Tuesday Night Worlds ride is probably the longest-running race in Zwift. It was started by Nate Robinson and Chris Pippy during beta on Jarvis Island.
The ZTRs try to be somewhat realistic races with rules that are intended to help make the racing more interesting. Our power-up rules are intended to help groups stay together so the racing doesn’t just become a time-trial. We try to do slightly longer races on Tuesdays (in the A and B groups) and keep the Thursday races closer to an hour so people can recover for weekend rides or races.
What suggestions would you give to someone interested in joining your races for the first time?
Don’t be afraid to join in. The ZTR races have four different groups to try to make them accessible to a wide range of abilities. Feel free to try out the race group you think most appropriate and adjust to a different group if it seems too slow or too fast.
If you’ve never tried racing before, the key to mass-start racing is to save as much energy as possible. Try to stay with the pack at all costs because the draft is what will get you to the end of the race in good position. You will sometimes need to sprint to catch up to the pack. It’s worth doing this because the energy you save in the pack is much greater than the energy it takes to catch back up.
Getting dropped is part of racing too. I get dropped in almost every race I join. The key at that point is to find others who are also dropped and work with them to get to the finish. Don’t be afraid to communicate. Check behind you to see if there is someone close you can work with and let them know you will work with them.
If the folks at Zwift HQ could add one feature to Zwift to make your job easier, what would it be and why?
I think they are already working on one of the key features: a holding pen for the starts. Right now we try to make the starts as fair as possible by having a short neutral roll-out that lets the pack form. Unfortunately it is hard to control this neutral as many times racers ride off the front of the pack without letting stragglers catch up. The holding pen will eliminate the need for the neutral section by releasing all riders at the same time, meaning the pack will be together from the start.
To learn more about the races Christian organizes, as well as other races and group rides, visit ZwiftCalendar.com.
Yes, the bike you choose in Zwift affects your speed. Your wheelset affects your speed even more! Our test lap data gives us a very solid idea of which bikes and wheels are fastest.
The TT bike consistently turns in the fastest lap times, but it cannot draft and is not allowed for some races. The next four fastest bikes, though, are within 10 seconds of each other over a full lap on the Watopia Figure 8 route.
While the 3 fastest bikes are high-level unlocks which take months of work to achieve, the Zwift Aero can be unlocked with just a few weeks of riding. This is a good thing, because it wouldn’t be very sporting to give more experienced Zwifters a significant advantage over newcomers!
Here’s the list:
#1: Cervelo S5
#2: Trek Madone
#3: Canyon Aeroad
#4: Zwift Aero
Note: lap times given are for the stated bike coupled with the Zipp 808 wheelset (level 10 unlock). The Zipp 808 was consistently the fastest wheelset in Zwift at the time of this post.
Important note: this post contains speed test results for Zwift frames or wheels. These results may change over time, and a bike's performance relative to others may also change. We don't always revise posts when performance rankings change, but we do keep current, master versions of our speed test results which are always available. See the frame charts, wheel charts, and Tron vs Top Performers for current performance data.
Zwift has just announced integration with TrainingPeaks. You can sign into your account at Zwift.com then connect your TrainingPeaks account from there (just like connecting your Strava account).
Presumably this automatically uploads your saved rides to your TrainingPeaks account, making it easy to follow your TrainingPeaks plan without separate uploading chores for each ride.
Ride on!
“The Hour” is perhaps the most prestigious challenge in all of cycling. In real life, UCI-sanctioned attempts take place in a velodrome, riders begin from a standing a start and must ride alone. It is a grueling effort where aerodynamics, steady high power and consistent form are key. (Little-known fact: The first universally accepted record was in 1876 when the American Frank Dodds rode 26.508 km (16.471 mi) on a penny-farthing. Learn more on Wikipedia)
This month the Zwift community is holding an informal hour challenge where all entrants get a chance to win a Zwift bidon.
The new Richmond flat route will be your best bet if you want the flattest loop possible. Remember though, that the entry will be accepted on any course.
Optionally, since there are bound to be some competitive souls out there, please add along with your submission your trainer type and whether you’re using a power meter or not.
Due to different trainer setups, miscalibration, etc, entries will not be judged on distance, although there is always an “unofficial” competition in these monthly challenges. All entries which meet the rules above will be put into the drawing, which closes at 12:00 GMT on 1st March 2016.
Good luck!
This morning when I ran Zwift with the date changed so I could run a test lap on Richmond, I was greeted with something new–a route options menu!
Choosing “Prefer Flat Roads” starts you before the start banner as usual, but .9 miles down the road you begin a 3.1 mile loop which never takes you back through the start banner.
Choose “Prefer Hilly Roads” starts you before the start banner as usual, but you hang a left about .2 miles after the start banner and get taken on the hilly “back half” of the course. This loop is 5.7 miles in length and does take you through the lap start each time.
Adding route options for Richmond is a smart move by Zwift, since many folks seem to prefer the Watopia course for its many route options. Richmond still doesn’t allow u-turns, but these two additional routes will make things more interesting for sure (and the new flat route makes Richmond the best place for flat TT efforts!)
The latest update for Zwift has been released–here are a few of the highlights:
See all the details for this update >
If you’ve been on Zwift for very long, you’ve probably seen Ray Brown riding. He’s not hard to spot–he’s the one with the crazy long name (Ray RAAM for Breast Cancer Research Foundation..) wearing pink and logging crazy rides of 200, 500, even 1000 miles.
Ray is a 58 year old guy from Georgia who is training for Race Across America (RAAM) and also raising funds and awareness for breast cancer. He uses Zwift as his primary training platform, and Bicycling magazine published an interview with him yesterday.
My favorite quote from Ray, when asked, “What do you think about your chances at RAAM?”
If you do 3,000 miles in 10 to 12 days, a lot can happen. I fear this thing as much as I respect it. I can’t say I’ll finish. It’s one thing to be confident, but cockiness can kill you in this race.
Read the full interview here >
