Earn Your PRL Full Badge! Zwift Insider Badge Hunters Event March 13th

Earn Your PRL Full Badge! Zwift Insider Badge Hunters Event March 13th

London’s PRL Full is the longest route in all of Zwift, covering 173km/107.5 miles. It’s a route best undertaken in good company, and this Saturday is a wonderful opportunity to do just that!

On the heels of our super-successful first event (Zwift Insider Badge Hunters – The Uber Pretzel Edition, which saw over 3,600 riders start and 2,600+ finish), we’re rolling out our next community challenge: to take on Zwift’s longest route and earn that coveted route badge.

The event takes place on Saturday, March 13th, at 6am Pacific/9am Eastern/2pm GMT.

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About the Route

The PRL Full route was released with the original London map, and the intent was to mimic the length (but not the actual roads) of the IRL Prudential Ride London event.

In contrast to Zwift’s other long routes, The PRL Full is quite simple: it’s just 11 laps of the London Loop, followed by a bit more riding to get you onto The Mall where you finish at the Classique forward sprint.

The big feature of the London Loop is Box Hill – 3km/1.9 miles long with 136m (446′) of elevation gain for an average gradient of 4.4%. It’s not a particularly long or steep climb, but 11x up any climb is a challenge!

Read more about The PRL Full >

Category Details

Our first event on the Uber Pretzel was amazing, but we also heard from some who had system crashes due to the massive number of riders. And that’s no good.

In an effort to reduce system problems, we’ve broken this ride up into three categories: A, B, and C. These are not pace categories. They only exist to spread out the riders a bit at the start.

Categories will start 2 minutes apart (we may even lengthen this to 5 minutes) so your Zwift device only has to deal with hundreds of riders at the beginning, and not a few thousand. Once riders get moving and spaced out, everyone’s systems should perform nicely.

If you’re concerned with your device’s ability to handle heavy traffic, join the category with fewer riders (probably B or C).

ALL categories will be visible throughout the ride. And since we’re covering 11 laps, you can be sure there will always be other riders nearby to join!

More Ride Specifics

  • Show up on time, because there is no late join for this ride. Why? Because if you late joined more than a minute or so into the event, you wouldn’t unlock the route badge! And we don’t want that on our conscience.
  • This will be a double draft ride, so sit in with others on the flats in order to conserve your energy.
  • Steering is enabled, to make it more engaging and fun!
  • We’re serving up a custom mix of only useful powerups, evenly split between the Feather, Van, and Helmet. Use them for a bit of relief.
  • This is not a race – it’s a group ride. You can treat it as a race if you’d like, of course, but the ride will break up naturally into pace groups. Find riders working at your target pace and work together.
  • Based on the VeloViewer Leaderboard we can see that top riders crush The PRL Full in 4.5 hours. But most mortals require 5.5-7 hours, with plenty taking even longer. You do you. Be sure to plan accordingly.

Discord

Zwift Insider’s Discord server will be used for voice chat during the ride. This really helps pass the time, so we highly encourage it!

Click here to join the server, and read “Using Discord on Zwift” for details if you’re new to Discord.

Sign Up Now

You can sign up for the event in Zwift’s Companion app, or online at zwift.com/events/view/1870675.

Questions or Comments?

Post below and we’ll do our best to answer them!

About The Author

Eric Schlange

Eric runs Zwift Insider in his spare time when he isn't on the bike or managing various business interests. He lives in Northern California with his beautiful wife, two kids and dog. Follow on Strava

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Mark C
Mark C (@rdcyclist)
2 months ago

Remember: ELEVEN times up Box Hill! ELEVEN! A group of friends and I did The Full for the Festive 500 last December. No Double Draft and no steering, dammit. But the best thing was the leader said it was 10 times up The Box at the start and when we got to the top the tenth time, we were so relieved! I was a coupla minutes ahead of everyone else so when we came out of the subway and went around the roundabout, I wrote out a message saying, “Hey, we have to go up Box again!” The joke was… Read more »

Weiwen
Weiwen
2 months ago
Reply to  Mark C

They should add an animation to give someone a virtual squirt from your water bottle when they pull stuff like this 🙂

rdcyclist (Mark Crane)
rdcyclist (Mark Crane) (@rdcyclist)
2 months ago
Reply to  Weiwen

😅Exactly.

Tom Jeffery
Tom Jeffery
2 months ago
Reply to  Mark C

Got in just under 6 hours. Now Zwift App is saying that there was an error and the ride hasn’t uploaded. All that tedious, boring riding for nothing!
Thanks for nothing, Zwift.

Martin Hayes
Martin Hayes
2 months ago
Reply to  Tom Jeffery

Zwift crashed during my 8th climb up Box Hill. When it restarted it “resumed” my ride but as I headed through the tunnel for the turnaround to the finish, it sent me back up Box Hill. So not only did I do 12/11 climbs, but I didn’t get a badge either. I’m not happy about this at all. Any recourse??

Jez Wardman
Jez Wardman
2 months ago
Reply to  Martin Hayes

Same thing happened to me but on the first lap. I also carried on and did a 12th lap before manually navigating to the Mall but turns out I didn’t take the right route to get to the Mall so maybe this is why I didn’t get the badge either. Thinking of writing to zwift but might be easier and quicker to just do it again.

Buzz
Buzz (@jimbo_jim007)
2 months ago
Reply to  Tom Jeffery

What platform were you using Tom?

Mathieu
Mathieu
2 months ago

>Show up on time, because there is no late join for this ride. Why? Because if you late joined more than a minute or so into the event, you wouldn’t unlock the route badge! And we don’t want that on our conscience. Is that unique to PRL Full? I frequently join route badge events late and have always got the badges. Just this morning, I joined the Provence Everything Bagel ride 20 minutes late, 15km in, and still got the badge at the end of the event (at my ~15km mark — I finished the 34km lap on my own… Read more »

Hybrid Noob
Hybrid Noob
2 months ago

Looking forward to this one, thanks Eric. It’s a timely reminder for me to have an easier going week beforehand and perhaps a day or two off the bike before Saturday to give it a (ever decreasing) nudge up Box.

Pauline
Pauline
2 months ago

A bit miffed that you don’t get the Ride London Kit 🙄

James Metcalfe
James Metcalfe
2 months ago

hmm, my time on this route could do with improving but I really didn’t enjoy it, too repetitive, they should have made it more like the pru ride London profile, with some flat loops before the hilly loops. I think a bit of variety would help.

Eileen
Eileen
2 months ago

Maybe have one option later than 6:00 am for west coast US/CA…

Bernie
Bernie
2 months ago
Reply to  Eileen

Or an earlier option for those of us in Europe who need to have our riding done before supper time?

Tim Perkin
Tim Perkin (@tperkin)
2 months ago

I am going to be riding it and going to be surfing the groups doing “in event” interviews with those that want to chat to capture some stories from the people riding. Figured it would be nice to hear from the Zwift Insider readership and make for an interesting article 👍

Mark
Mark
2 months ago

Looking forward to this. Should i ride CANYON AEROAD 2021 or the Cannondale EVO frame? These are my best two bikes. Any advice appreciated 😊

Buzz
Buzz (@jimbo_jim007)
2 months ago
Reply to  Mark

Aeroad and DT Swiss wheels will be my combo. Lots of flat. At 2wkg on London loop it was 12mins climbing and 20 mins flat.

Mark
Mark
2 months ago
Reply to  Buzz

Thanks Buzz 👍

Weiwen
Weiwen
2 months ago
Reply to  Mark

Definitely the more aero frame. It’s not just that there’s a lot of flat. Box Hill isn’t that steep compared to the Alpe or Ventoux, and you also go down it 11 times. If you have access to the DT Swiss 62s, those are a good choice for a rolling race. Based on the factors I outlined, I think I’ll actually take my Zipp 808s, which are slightly faster on the flats and slightly slower on the climbs.

Mark
Mark
2 months ago
Reply to  Weiwen

Thanks, I’ve got both the DT Swiss 62s and the Zipp 808s. Sounds like they are both close. One better on the flats and the other better on the climbs 🤔

Hybrid Noob
Hybrid Noob
2 months ago
Reply to  Mark

All about the aero. Go with your most aero setup, which will be absolutely fine for the 4% Box Hill stuff too.

Jelantik
Jelantik
2 months ago
Reply to  Mark

I would ride with spez venge and zip 858. I figured the climb is so short and mostly spend in the flat.

Buzz
Buzz (@jimbo_jim007)
2 months ago

Did Prl half at the weekend. Oosh almost triple the laps. Pacing, pacing, pacing. If I make this, will only be getting a couple hours sleep. Wish everyone luck! We may have double drafting and groups to ride with, but it is still tens of thousands of pedal revs! Bon courage!

Roger L
Roger L
2 months ago

Steering sucks. Will it be possible to disable it individually?

Roger L
Roger L
2 months ago
Reply to  Eric Schlange

Ok. I thought it was steering with the Companion. That doesn’t work very well.

Dan
Dan
2 months ago

If there is going to be three groups anyways, it would be really nice to have an earlier start time option of like 7am EST. The 9am start kills the day.

Martin Gill
Martin Gill
2 months ago
Reply to  Dan

Try 2:00pm (which is what the start time in the UK is going to be)!! This is a one off event (at least I’m pretty sure it will be for me!!!) so I’m happy to work around the start time for the benefit of the opportunity to do this with a big group.

Henry Ashman
Trusted Member
Henry Ashman (@h_j_ashman)
2 months ago
Reply to  Martin Gill

Yeah I think the potential midnight finish if I flag towards the end or need a break is what’ll put me off doing it this time. I did the Uber pretzel + enough to complete the century on NYE and that took ~10 hours total.

Double draft is nice, but there’ll be other chances to do this I suspect, it is my last route badge though.

Colin Carstens
Colin Carstens
2 months ago
Reply to  Dan

How about a midnight start time in Queensland Australia, I had to stop and get 1 hour of sleep to finish the ride. I will NOT be joining this ride for that reason. Bye. 😡

Martin Gill
Martin Gill
2 months ago
Reply to  Colin Carstens

You win Colin!

Colon
Colon
2 months ago
Reply to  Colin Carstens

Typical whinge.

Paul
Paul
2 months ago
Reply to  Colin Carstens

3am start in NZ yeah nah

Rick B.
Rick B.
2 months ago

“You be You” is great advice for how to pace this route, especially with such a large anticipated turnout. You could easily get into a group that is burning more matches than you can afford over the entire route. Box Hill has the painted road segment “Box Hill – Road River” (looks somewhat like a white bar graph in the middle of the road for approx. 100 meters. This article has a screen capture of it – Thanks Eric). I used this section as an unofficial race segment, noting the elapsed time when I came upon it for all of… Read more »

Mark Pixie Hammond
Mark Pixie Hammond
2 months ago

Do your backside a favour and get off of your bike while it freewheels down the other side of Box Hill. Its about a two minute descent when freewheeling which gives enough time to stretch, have a comfort break or eat some real food. Have done both full and half PRL in recent weeks, at about a 1.9 w/kg average per lap reckon on 36/37 minute lap times and a total ride time of around 7 hours. If like me, you are a distinctly average rider, your backside will thank you later in the ride for taking advantage of that… Read more »

Andy
Andy
2 months ago

Thanks fo er this advice. It really helped. My behind is still sore but much less than it might have been. Plus the brief break gives you something to aim for each lap, helping break up the monotony of 11 laps

Thorben
Thorben
2 months ago

Hey Eric,
there a category A, B, C and D for this ride. All categories has the same w/kg.

Why have you split the event? Just because of the amount of riders?

🙂

Hybrid Noob
Hybrid Noob
2 months ago
Reply to  Thorben

Yes, exactly that (see above). A slightly staggered start to manage numbers. If on older or less capable hardware go for the later starts that will likely have lower numbers.

Hybrid Noob
Hybrid Noob
2 months ago
Reply to  Hybrid Noob

“In an effort to reduce system problems, we’ve broken this ride up into three categories: A, B, and C. These are not pace categories. They only exist to spread out the riders a bit at the start.”

Robby Beauchamp
Robby Beauchamp
2 months ago

I did this in a meet-up with some friends a couple months ago. I actually enjoyed this one more than the Uber. The PRL Full works in nicely with my OCD and ability to just crank out laps of a circuit. Probably comes from my time running distance on a track 😆
Once you get in with a good group, the loops actually go by really quick.
I’ll probably hop in for a bit if I don’t join the BMTR century on Tick-Tock. I’d like to give a 3:20-ist 100 miler a go…….

Jeff Cottrell
Jeff Cottrell
2 months ago

Hey Eric, Yesterday I had an absolutely foul idea for a rebel route… The ‘PRL Uber Full” Route!!! So, you use the same flat segments as the PRL full but climb Leith Hill each loop. OUCH!!!

Max Janssen
Max Janssen
2 months ago

So what would be the best pacing strategy? Hold on at the front and try to get as must as a draft on the flats as possible, or pace right from the first climb for a (hopefully) steady effort? The latter option might end up having slower flat sections for the first few rounds. Any thoughts here?

Martin Gill
Martin Gill
2 months ago
Reply to  Max Janssen

I’m a reasonably competitive Cat C racer (i.e. fortunate enough that my achievable W/kg are around the ceiling for C!!). I did the L’Equipe Provence PRL Half ride a little while ago which is posted as a C paced ride – it was on average, although certainly towards the upper end of that bracket. I stayed with the Beacon, but quite a few where off the front in their own faster paced bunches. Trying to hold this pace for that long was too much for me – by Lap 3 and certainly Lap 4 I was starting to crack. I… Read more »

Hybrid Noob
Hybrid Noob
2 months ago
Reply to  Max Janssen

Somewhere in between I reckon. Do the first lap and especially the first climb or two a little harder than the following 9 or 10 efforts then try to find a group from there that settles into an endurance range for you on the flat. We all know most will go off harder than they can hold and a fair few will drop out, so it’s a fine line, but I reckon climbing the first time or two around threshold should be about right before settling into something more manageable on the following ascents. I will also remind myself not… Read more »

Hybrid Noob
Hybrid Noob
2 months ago
Reply to  Hybrid Noob

Meant to say that strategy worked relatively well for me on the Uber Pretzel ride. I knew I was going a little harder than I should be but found a good group (think you were in the same one?) and figured the time it would save me would be more than I would lose on the Alpe. I had to back off some up the Alpe, to the tune of an extra 5 minutes up the climb than I had hoped, but overall it was definitely a quicker time.

Max Janssen
Max Janssen
2 months ago
Reply to  Hybrid Noob

We were in the same group indeed. I think you’re right about “somewhere in between”. In Uber Pretzel my strategy basically was to crest Epic KOM asap and draft until AdZ. But I was suffering during the flats way more than expected, averaging 3,4 w/kg in the blob for hours. I completely broke down on AdZ, although that was also due to poor (timing of) nutrition. What surprised me was that “slower groups” were actually only a few minutes behind, instead of 10-15 minutes what I would have expected. So in hindsight, I might have been better off with a… Read more »

Mike W
Mike W
2 months ago
Reply to  Max Janssen

I was in the 4 hour group a few weeks back and everyone blew up on the Alp. Most everyone was riding under 3.5 w/kg on that climb. It was brutal.

So for this one I will definitely not be following the front group up Box Hill at 5w/kg and then end up regreting it on the final laps.

Buzz
Buzz (@jimbo_jim007)
2 months ago
Reply to  Max Janssen

Perhaps not for you, but for any others in the ‘completion’ category, I did Uber with the aim of 2wkg from the gun, climbs nothing above 2.5, and eat early and often. This meant dropping to the 3000’s in terms of numbers. There weren’t a whole lot of groups, but there were some through the flats. 1.5hours up Alpe at that speed. Snuck in under 7 hours. I was happy with the strategy. Will do the same for this one, if I make it. I would be aiming for a negative split, to lift pace in the last few laps… Read more »

Buzz
Buzz (@jimbo_jim007)
2 months ago

The London loop has several lumps in it that will sap you if you try and power over them everytime in the same gear you entered. The 10% after the line at Box Hill, the climb out of the subway, and then several 6% ramps in the town roads that don’t look like 6% ramps on screen. Buyer beware!

Jarrett
Jarrett
2 months ago

Psyched for another killer ride, Eric… that double-draft was a lifesaver in Über Pretzel. And I’ll pop in to Discord again… good conversation definitely makes the time go by faster. Thanks for hosting!

Brendan B
Brendan B
2 months ago

These events are a great idea to help knock out some of the longer courses. However, every event has been at the same time and I have class Saturday mornings. I haven’t been able to participate in any yet. It seems like there’s a lot of interest, so maybe it would be worthwhile to do 2 sessions – perhaps one Sunday morning.

D. QCW p/b Cadence
D. QCW p/b Cadence (@darren-r-linkin)
2 months ago

Would be fun to have ‘race’ level super tuck as you’ve described it 😉

Lenard
Lenard
2 months ago

Shocking time for Europeans again..no thanks

Ian
Ian
2 months ago

Would love to do this but 1am Aust time doesn’t really work.

Inge Balswick
2 months ago

Will all three starting groups A-C see each other in this event? Ie. when I drop off group A, will I then be picked up by the thousands of riders starting in group B-C? How do an Apple-TV 4th. gen relate to the statement “older or less capable hardware”?

Jarrett
Jarrett
2 months ago
Reply to  Eric Schlange

Clarifying question, Eric: If someone starts in the A group and then drops back enough to be passed by some Bs and Cs, will they still be able to double-draft off of those latter groups? Asking for a friend… 🤔

Jarrett
Jarrett
2 months ago
Reply to  Eric Schlange

Cheers for the double-draft! 🍻

Andy
Andy
2 months ago

Is it possible to take short breaks (eg food, nature) and still complete the ride, get the badge? Haven’t been Zwifting long, a few weeks ago completed my first 100km in 3.5 hours doing the London Pretzel. Not expecting more than 5-10 mins each time, but want to be sure that’s ok.. am 51 and knees are creaking !

Andy
Andy
2 months ago
Reply to  Eric Schlange

Thanks for the fast reply Eric 👍

Alex
Alex (@altetlak)
2 months ago

So excited for this! I’ve been doing the Gran Fondo workout series on Zwift just to keep motivated and I’m currently in the final taper week. I didn’t have a specific long ride planned as an end to the 8 weeks, but this fits in perfectly! (And it’s going to be rainy all day Saturday, so I don’t have to feel torn about outside vs. inside!) Thanks for reading my mind, Eric!

Kris G
Kris G
2 months ago

Would you also complete the PRL half in the veloviewer leaderboard when doing PRL full?

Tim
Tim
2 months ago
Reply to  Kris G

No, because to get the PRL half segment you need to leave the loop and goto the classique finish banner after 4 laps, but prl full needs to do more laps before it goes to that banner to finish.

Kris G
Kris G
2 months ago
Reply to  Tim

But when riding the full PRL, would you not get on the segment of the half PRL after 6 laps or so?

Tim
Tim
2 months ago
Reply to  Eric Schlange

This doesn’t seem to be true. I spot checked a dozen people who did the PRL Full segment in the past week and none of their activities had the prl half segment on them (yes, I looked in “hidden segments too).

Tim
Tim
2 months ago
Reply to  Eric Schlange

Pretty sure it’s a strava bug or intentional limit (segments too long?).

Kris G
Kris G
2 months ago
Reply to  Tim

I was really hoping I could get the 2 segments completed with this one ride

Tim
Tim
2 months ago
Reply to  Kris G

Yeah, it’d be nice, wouldn’t it!

Kris G
Kris G
2 months ago
Reply to  Eric Schlange

Thanks for confirming !

Stuart Doyle
Stuart Doyle
2 months ago

Will we only see other participants in thsi event or all Zwifters? If the latter will we able to figure out who to team up with or just wing it? Thanks

Stuart Doyle
Stuart Doyle
2 months ago
Reply to  Eric Schlange

Thank you Eric

Jon H
Jon H
2 months ago

I’m looking forward to giving this route a go, as I think this will be the easiest way to get it done. I plan on riding as a long endurance ride, 2-2.5w/kg the whole way, with plenty of stops (I’m thinking every hour for 5-10 mins). I’m even considering turning my trainer difficulty down to zero. Will be on the discord channel for company.

Buzz
Buzz (@jimbo_jim007)
2 months ago
Reply to  Jon H

Me too Jon! Probably on the slower end. Im scared, but gonna give it a shot!

Jon H
Jon H
2 months ago
Reply to  Buzz

Which group are you starting with Buzz? I’m in the B group (2nd to set off). Hope to see you somewhere along the way!

Kaowin
Kaowin
2 months ago
Reply to  Jon H

Maybe keep some resistance on for the climb, those few extra watts will help you get up quicker. I’ve done the Alpe on 0% and 50% and prefer having something. 0% added about 20 mins

Jon H
Jon H
2 months ago
Reply to  Kaowin

Yes I think you are right! I think I’ll leave it around 30% 👍🏻

Buzz
Buzz (@jimbo_jim007)
2 months ago
Reply to  Jon H

Hope you had a good ride. I have bruised sit bones today!

Jörn
Jörn
2 months ago

Any ideas on what would be the perfect virtual bike setup for this ride? Tron? Tarmac pro with Meilensteins?

Kaowin
Kaowin
2 months ago
Reply to  Jörn

I’m toying between Tron or Aeroad/Dt Swiss….double draft AND van means the aeroad will still be fast on flat but better on the climbs…..although it’s not that steep anyway. Saying that, the Tron will gain more benefit in the pack, even more than the Aeroad….

Saying that, we’re talking about seconds anyway!!

kurt hackl
kurt hackl
2 months ago

Sorry guys will ride with you only 3 to 4 laps.

Nicola
Nicola
2 months ago

Signed up. Will try to stay on the blue zone, for me 1.6-2.1 w/kg and let’s see. Never went over 120km on Zwift and don’t know how legs and bottom will react… Planning for one stop to dry up and change sweated kit. Curious to see if I have enough legs to finish it.

Kris
Kris
2 months ago

Why in results is upg? In every gruop was 1-5w/kg.

Bobby
Bobby
2 months ago
Reply to  Kris

Me too. I’m A+ on zp and entered the C group. I’ve lodged an appeal so I’ll have to wait and see.

Mike Apted
Active Member
Mike Apted (@mikeapted)
2 months ago

Well – ride competed – with the screen shots to prove it, and the ride uploaded to Zwift is 2-3 km short and I didn’t get the badge. Any suggestions or am I screwed?

Tim
Tim
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike Apted

You could try these instructions to see if one of the saved fit files has the whole activity https://zwiftinsider.com/retrieve-lost-ride/

You could also try contacting zwift (either via support or via the forums) I think I’ve seen them fix up badge mistakes like this recently.

Mike Apted
Active Member
Mike Apted (@mikeapted)
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike Apted

Thanks guys – and thanks for setting up the ride! The ending was irritating for me but the preceding 6 hours was great 😉

Mike Apted
Active Member
Mike Apted (@mikeapted)
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike Apted

Was able to delete my Strava ride and upload the .fit file from Zwift on the laptop, so the full ride shows in Strava now, but despite it being recorded properly locally Zwift has no mechanism to update their online version, and supports answer was “pound sand”.

Buzz
Buzz (@jimbo_jim007)
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike Apted

Wait, did the badge pop up on screen and then it doesn’t show up in the game now?

I know the opposite to be true, you get the badge to pop in game, then it fails to load to zwift, but the badge stays in the garage.

Also, what platform do you use?

Mike Apted
Active Member
Mike Apted (@mikeapted)
2 months ago
Reply to  Buzz

Correct – I got the “Congrats” banner on screen, and finishing the ride boosted me up a level (45->46) as well (also in screen shot). Then a coasted to a stop. Saved ride, Zwift exited without any visible issue. The ride that appears in my event history is short by 3km, won’t actually load the detail page, and when I log in now I see back to old level (45) and no badge in garage. Local .fit file has whole ride, i.e. have the PRL Full segment in Strava.

Ben
Ben
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike Apted

dude that totally sucks. As does the canned response from Zwift.

Buzz
Buzz (@jimbo_jim007)
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike Apted

Man, that is really weird! And that sucks big time.

What platform was it running on?

Mike Apted
Active Member
Mike Apted (@mikeapted)
2 months ago
Reply to  Buzz

MacBook Pro – fresh build for nothing but Zwift. Plugged in. Wifi access point 10 feet away. I feel like the way the app exits so abruptly on Mac OS has a lot to do with this. The support response said something about “ride data is uploaded every 10 mins” which makes zero sense.

Jez Wardman
Jez Wardman
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike Apted

The guys at Zwift are just greedy As far as they are concerned they have our money in their bank account with a few more million going in every month so they just don’t care Hopefully once lockdown eases subscribers will fall off a cliff and they might come to their senses

Buzz
Buzz (@jimbo_jim007)
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike Apted

Thanks Mike. Sorry, long response coming. I’m asking because I have been running Zwift on a 10 year old HP laptop running Windows 7, with integrated graphics, I run on the lowest quality, and have it hooked into a TV through a PC cable, not HDMI. This seems far lower spec than pretty much everyone I come across that has had an issue. Even an iPhone 3 or 4 should be gruntier than this laptop. I seemed to have trouble with having companion app open at the same time as closing my ride (I now close companion app). I haven’t… Read more »

Steve Young
Steve Young
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike Apted

When I had this issue I sent the screenshots to Zwift support and they added the badges within a couple of days.

Mike Apted
Active Member
Mike Apted (@mikeapted)
1 month ago
Reply to  Steve Young

Update on my side: after several round trips via email and including screen shots and .fit files from the laptop they did credit me the badge. They couldn’t fix the points lost for the route completion but I can live with that, as long as I don’t have to repeat the PRL Full for the badge.

Tom Jeffery
Tom Jeffery
2 months ago

How do I contact Zwift if my ride hasn’t uploaded?

Hybrid Noob
Hybrid Noob
2 months ago
Reply to  Tom Jeffery
Tom Jeffery
Tom Jeffery
2 months ago
Reply to  Hybrid Noob

Thanks! I’ve uploaded the .fit file to Strava successfully, so not all is lost. But I didn’t get the route badge in Zwift. Still, I’ve saved the log and fit files, maybe there’ll be an opportunity some time in the future to rectify this.

Hybrid Noob
Hybrid Noob
2 months ago
Reply to  Tom Jeffery

As Eric’s reply on a similar comment above, contact Zwift Support too https://support.Zwift.com

Mike Apted
Active Member
Mike Apted (@mikeapted)
2 months ago
Reply to  Tom Jeffery

As an update on my side: I got the canned response from Zwift Support I expected, which was “tough luck”. It is very demotivating to consider attempting these exceptional indoor rides knowing that there is a chance you won’t get the credit. This seems to be a long lived problem based on search results and their fix is “create a canned response” vs fix the problem. No internet problems on my side, nothing out of the ordinary. Finished the ride and closed it out as normal.

Buzz
Buzz (@jimbo_jim007)
2 months ago
Reply to  Tom Jeffery

What platform are you on Tom?

Mark Gallagher
Mark Gallagher
2 months ago

Wow. Thanks for organizing that Eric.

With just the major badges left to get, nice to have knocked of the longest one. At least now I can approach the others with reasonable confidence that the legs can cope with things over an hours (which has been most of my Zwifting this winter).

And officially my longest recorded ride in Strava.

Michael Müller
2 months ago
Reply to  Mark Gallagher

+1 – also thank you very much! Never done something similar as indoor training, never done a 175k distance that high-flying. The setting encouraged me to try a PR-Lap in the “11th round” which at least worked at the hill. Strava scores this effort even higher than my past 400km-Brevets; of course Strava can’t rate, what it means to ride through the night with snowflakes and rain in the morning – but this event gives confidence for all following road adventures this season. My irritation by the way was bit different: playing around with my smartphone I didn’t recognize the… Read more »

Jez Wardman
Jez Wardman
2 months ago

Well, I feel completely shafted by Zwift, on the first lap Zwift crashed and then when it restarted it resumed the course but I had been thrown off the ride I continued anyway even though most but not all others had disappeared and so had the draft. But after finishing the lap for the 11th time instead of taking me to the finish I was sent up the hill for a 12th time then after manually navigating to the finish next time round I still didn’t get a badge despite have done an extra lap

Kaowin
Kaowin
2 months ago
Reply to  Jez Wardman

Sorry to hear that. I think if you ever crash or deviate/turn/U turn, you don’t get a route badge. Next time!

Buzz
Buzz (@jimbo_jim007)
2 months ago
Reply to  Jez Wardman

What platform do you use?

Jez Wardman
Jez Wardman
2 months ago
Reply to  Buzz

@jimbo_jim007 I was using a pair of iPhones, one to run the app via a dock connector for power and HDMI to TV and the other to run companion and everything else – Spotify discord etc Normally works fine but I think these big rides just involve too much processing for it to handle Also noticed the battery level was getting hammered even though plugged in which might be a clue too

Buzz
Buzz (@jimbo_jim007)
2 months ago
Reply to  Jez Wardman

Bummer. Do you run it high med or low quality? Any other screens attached?

Kaowin
Kaowin
2 months ago

Great ride Eric, your little message with 2 laps to go helped! Was a sucker of a ride and felt like giving up with 3 to go. 30 min laps lasted about 4 then fatigue set in by 8. Those last 10km are killer. Great work all. Great work Eric. Never again though!

Andy
Andy
2 months ago

Eric, that was an epic ride yesterday! Previous longest ride 62 miles (4xbox hill) about a month ago. Hopped off the saddle on the box hills descents, but otherwise it was a 7:44 enduro! Glad I started at an easy pace, the downside is not too many double draft opportunities! Must get quicker. Advice on this chat really helps. Hydration, food and pace the key to completion for first timers. Thanks again

Kaowin
Kaowin
2 months ago
Reply to  Andy

Yes, I noticed that. Really strong double draft but if you’re slower and drop off you totally lose that and left high and dry!

Buzz
Buzz (@jimbo_jim007)
2 months ago
Reply to  Andy

I noticed you could be drafting, a faster bunch could ride through the middle and kick you out of the draft! So annoying… but still lovely to have while you are in the double draft!

Buzz
Buzz (@jimbo_jim007)
2 months ago

To all who lost their rides, super sorry to hear that!

If your companion app freezes when you ride like mine does, i learned to force close companion before uploading my ride/exiting zwift after a ride.

I wonder what platform everyone is using that has issues with crashing during a ride, and during uploading.

I know patchy WiFi when trying to upload can be a problem for me.

Its no consolation though, losing that effort sucks!

Martin Hayes
Martin Hayes
2 months ago
Reply to  Buzz

Thanks, but this is the second large group ride that had technical issues and this time I lost over 5h of riding data. I think I’ll stick to smaller meet ups for >4h rides. I like the idea of these Zwift insider group rides, but I don’t think the platform can handle them.

Buzz
Buzz (@jimbo_jim007)
2 months ago
Reply to  Martin Hayes

Yeah understand, gutted Martin! Just putting it out there as something that may assist some people. Additionally, what platform are you running Zwift on?

Keeley
Keeley
2 months ago

I want to thank you so much for putting on these rides. The PRL Full is one I’ve dreaded for years and wondered if I’d ever be able to get it. This event had me putting on my big girl knickers and attempting it. It was a long, long, ride – got cramps for the first time! Yikes! That was unpleasant! But got through it and got the badge! Thank you! It was a massive achievement for me and I’m tickled pink.
I don’t suppose you’ll be doing the four horsemen next will you?

Buzz
Buzz (@jimbo_jim007)
2 months ago
Reply to  Keeley

L’equipe are doing this on the 28th of March. My last badge, so I will do that probably. But likely more riders in a Zwift insider ride to help with a draft if they do it!

D. QCW p/b Cadence
D. QCW p/b Cadence (@darren-r-linkin)
2 months ago

Eric I’m bit in contention hahahahaha but I went hard for a long rime…I was a little behind yiu siubds like, it would be interesting to see how we did THAT DAY. Or even if not placements even better # or finishers each or 30 minutes. It’s of course meaningless but we are playing a fame and we usually get results in a fondo?

Gerry
Gerry
2 months ago

Does anyone know how many we started with and how many finished? I managed it in under 7 hours, but I stopped for dinner!

Graeme
Graeme
2 months ago

It was a good event but I’m not sure this was a good event for double draft. The gradients varied too much and once you dropped off, you struggled to get back on. I experienced this as well with the Volcano 25laps event ran by others. This is coming from someone who finished at 5hrs 30.

If this was done as normal drafting you could have caught up with others. I also had issues with sticky draft when passing others.

It was a good event but one I’ll never do again.

Bruce
Bruce (@chomskyn)
2 months ago

Thank you for organizing the event. Without the motivation of all the friendly riders I doubt I would have finished. It’s going to be a ling time before I ever go up box hill again.

Max Janssen
Max Janssen
2 months ago

I really loved both events. They were true gran fondo’s! Especially the double draft adds to the challenge (instead of making it more easy!). I noticed both on PRL Full and on Uber Pretzel that I was suffering big on the flats, while generally you would expect that the flats would be easier. In reality the flats did not get easier, they only got faster. The challenge that this adds is as follows. I was in a good group half-way the PRL-full ride at around (guesstimate) 40th place overall. The speed of our group on the flats was great, but… Read more »

Steve Young
Steve Young
2 months ago

Great Ride! Thanks so much for hosting it. Loved the discord chatter. I usually listen to books/podcasts, but this made if feel a bit more like a ‘real’ group ride.

In case anyone else is wondering why their results are not showing in zwiftpower.com, you need to opt-in: Opt-in via your Zwift.com profile to appear in results – Zwift Power

Looking forward to the next one!

I use Apple TV to run swift. What can I do.
I use Apple TV to run swift. What can I do.
2 months ago

I completed the full PRL, when I ended my ride in never download it. It shows up only the miles in my Companion app not the route, I did not get my badge. I use Apple TV to run swift. What can I do.

Cody
Cody
2 months ago

Based on what I’ve read from others who have not gotten badges in the past, I would reach out to Zwift support. They should be able to give you the badge.

nitai zecharya
nitai zecharya
1 month ago

hi, by riding the prl full, do i get the prl half or should i ride it seperatly ?

nitai zecharya
nitai zecharya
1 month ago
Reply to  Eric Schlange

thank you Eric 👍

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