Zwift version 1.62 begins its phased rollout today. It’s a minor game update, but does include a new level 100 unlock (confetti socks!) and a note from Zwift about upcoming XP system changes. See details below…
Confetti Socks!
When Zwift revamped rider levels in December 2023, they promised a second prize for level 100 riders. This week’s update delivers that prize: confetti socks!
Level 100 riders who are wearing confetti socks have a special ability: their Ride Ons are confetti-filled and include a +2XP bonus! That is, when you receive a Ride On from a confetti sock sporting rider, you’ll see confetti on your screen, and get a small XP boost.
You’ll also unlock the “Party On!” badge the first time you get a Ride On from a level 100 Zwifter. This badge is worth an additional 50XP:
Here’s what it looks like when our bot gives a Ride On bomb to the five closest riders:
The confetti is only visible to the rider who gives the level 100 Ride On, as well as the rider who receives it.
Like the fire socks, confetti socks can be put on or taken off via your garage:
Zwifters who have already reached level 100 (impressive!) will see confetti socks unlock the first time they sign into Zwift version 1.62.
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XP Changes (Now and Upcoming)
This week’s update includes some changes to Zwift’s XP system, but there are much bigger changes coming soon. Zwift says, “We’ve heard your feedback that the new 100-level system (along with bonus XP from ride streaks) makes leveling-up much more achievable and engaging than it was in the past, but that there’s a desire to make leveling-up more challenging and prestigious, especially for higher levels.”
In this week’s update, weekly ride streak XP bonuses are now only granted for the first ride of each week, instead of the first two. Also, XP details (your current cycling level and XP remaining until the next level) are now shown in the Ride Report:
Zwift says the 100-level system will be revised in May. We don’t have all the details, but Zwift shared the following:
- The XP required to reach maximum Level 100 will increase from the current 591,000 XP to 1,000,000 XP.
- Leveling-up will still be faster than the previous 60-level system, helping to make progression feel more attainable.
- You will not lose any levels or progress when moving to the revised system. Whatever your current level is, you will keep that same level in the revised system.
- There will be no change to the amount of XP required to reach your immediate next level. You’ll earn your next level based on the requirements of the previous system and the revised system will take effect after that.
- There will be no changes to XP requirements for Levels 1-27.
- The amount of XP required to earn levels will continue to increase proportionally for higher levels as it does with the current system. Compared to the current system, the revised system will have a moderate increase in required XP throughout levels 28-50, a higher increase between levels 50-90, and a further higher increase between levels 90-100.
- Just as with the previous 100-level system, existing Zwifters will receive “XP discounts” based on their ‘banked XP’ from the previous level system to reach their equivalent new level in the revised system faster. This means that you’ll still get the satisfaction of leveling up, but each level will be faster to earn while you complete the transition to the revised level system.
Read/discuss upcoming XP leveling adjustments on Zwift’s forum >
Fewer Streaks Screens
Zwift continues to fine-tune the experience of their recently introduced Streaks screen. Starting with today’s update, it will only show when you start a new streak, or when your streak increases to a new week.
That means the screen will only pop up once each week, instead of after every activity. Hurray!
Virtual Shifting Sound
Zwifters enjoying the glory of virtual shifting will now hear a slight sound effect whenever they shift. Want to hear it? Click below, and listen closely…
Bug Fix: Apple TV Logouts
For Apple TV users, Zwift says this update, “Fixed an issue that could potentially cause users to be logged out or reset their game settings after an update.” Zwifters were complaining that Zwift would inconsistently lose their login status or settings when an update was installed, forcing them to re-log in and set up settings, which feels like more hassle than it already is when you have to use the Apple TV remote to do it!
Today’s update should stop this from happening.
More Release Notes
Zwift provided notes on additional tweaks and bug fixes in this update:
- Improved the look of tiles on the edges of the home screen.
- Added missing workout localization to the HUD and Workout dashboard in the Zwift game.
- macOS: Fixed an issue that could cause a yellow line to appear across the roadway when using 2015 (and earlier) Mac devices.
Discuss this release on Zwift’s forum >
Questions or Comments?
If you spotted any other changes or bugs in the update, please comment below!
How to completely mess up a system that wasn’t broken in the first place. Someone in zwift needs to stop messing about and get on with things that really matter. And I don’t need more socks, caps or shoes.
I disagree. Getting the equivalent of 50km worth of XP as a log in bonus was way too much.
Agree bonus xp in streaks should be zero!
Please turn the whole streaks thing off
Instead let Robopacers ride in the scheduled worlds so I can ride with them in France or London or….whatever!
Agree 100% with this!!!
Would like to see their backlog & how they prioritize tasks.
So if I’m at Level 99 and have almost 591,000 points when they make the shift to the 1,000,000 XP, I’ll stay at Level 99 until I earn another 409,000 points? I hope that’s not right.
The article states “There will be no change to the amount of XP required to reach your immediate next level. You’ll earn your next level based on the requirements of the previous system and the revised system will take effect after that” so you should be ok.
What would have if you were currently on level 98? From the article you’d need to small XP requirement to go to the next level, i.e. 99 but to me the article suggests you’d then need over 400,000 to go from 99 to 100.
Hmmm, I just hit level 98 today, on a LV60>>>LV98 accelerator, with 1,326,433 rider score. No idea what’s going to happen. I’m still getting 40 XP per km. Was hoping to hit 100 before I leave on a trip next week. We’ll see what happens… 🤷♂️
you should be fine to 99 then effect takes place
DO WHAT YOU WANT WHENEVER YOU WANT
HE DOES IT, TOO!
I had already 740,000 points with level 59 when suddenly a change of system occured!! The former highest level 60 was my goal.
No reaction of Mr. ZWIFT himself at all I joined ROUVY. I am so happy with my decision.
THANKS FOR THE SUPPORT
It means you have a month to get one more level!
So if your are level 98 you are so f***ed! Way to go Zwift. It wasn’t broke but you fixed it good.
If I’ve read the rules, then you’re fucked regardless of your level. Your next level up will be easy but the second one will be hard. 98 would be the worse situation but it everyone (except those already at 100) will be currently be a level on the current 100 model which is higher than the level they’d be at on the new system.
Why would anyone with >1mil XP be f’d under the new system if 1mil is the threshold for level 100 in the future?
Maybe it’s because I am already over 1mil XP but personally I think 1mil XP = level 100 sounds perfectly fine to me.
“immediate next level” is the key phrase there. Beyond that, one will have to earn 409,000 XP more along the way to get to level 100, according to what is written above.
Could it be that you have to earn the diference between 99 and 100 in XP points instead? Let say maybe 30 thousand XP for example.
That’s my guess on how it’ll work, Emilio. We’ll find out for sure once Zwift rolls it out.
They’ve added a small extra detail, that the 1,000,000 drops for level 100 is for new zwifters. And presumably anyone under level 27 when it rolls out. Each level requires a certain xp gain to achieve, and no one will have to gain that amount of xp to reach the next level.
591,000xp should align to about level 80 if my maths is right, and anyone above level 80 with more than 591,000xp should get to level 100 with less than 1,000,000xp.
I wish they’d stop muckng up catch up mechanics. My rider score is ~800K and I’m only lvl 73. I’ve only got XP discounts to lvl 100 because I had only reached lvl 59 before the top lvl changed to 100.
You’ll be lvl 100 at the changeover, and I’ll be even further away from 100. It’ll take many months even though I have 25% more XP.
Ha, JD! Clearly I’m not doing enough to game the level-up. I’m at level 57 with 882k rider score.
I had already 740,000 points with level 59 when suddenly a change of system occured!! The former highest level 60 was my goal.
No reaction of Mr. ZWIFT himself at all I joined ROUVY. I am so happy with my decision.
At least we are getting Mt Fuji
Haha I was literally about to post this
Yeah… but don’t get TOO excited. It’s a Climb Portal (at least for now), not a Makuri extension…
I don’t see it on the Climb Portal List.
All About Zwift’s Climb Portal | Zwift Insider
Haven’t posted it yet.
What/where did you see this?
Check the screenshot in the posting and the naming of the KOM-Shirt 🙂
In the screenshot of the Super Secret Test Ride. The map of the climb portal is the Subaru line ascent of Mt Fuji. 24km 1,211metres. “Mt Fuji hillclimb” segment on Strava.
Why don’t Zwift just run some of these things past users before implementing them. It’s really frustrating when a system gets implemented, you learn about it and accept it and then they radically change it. Personally I like the leveling up quicker. Maybe give an option to stay on the current xp increase or switch to the new one. Zwift shouldn’t give in to the vocal minority.
I also suspect a lot of the people that said levelling up was too fast are already level 100 as they were getting double XP on the streaks screen
I’d rather be bumped straight to the level worth my XP’s (1.5M)
That could be work 🤔😉
Have they moved “Mountain Mash” to a free ride?
Not yet.
Looks like i have just a month to get to Level 100 at the discounted XP price…Thanks Zwift for your latest SNAFU!! Love ya🤬
I was hoping it was an April 1st post.
To me that’s some extra motivation 🙂
Was scheduled to get there in mid May, now have to put in a couple extra miles.
(If there’s even a change for me, I’m already >1mil XP?)
The level streak should just be removed. On my chase to Level 100 it never motivated me as I was riding twice a week regardless and when the weather improves and I start riding outdoors it won’t motivate me to ride Zwift once a week to keep the streak as I can start a new streak when the weather turns again.
Also even with now needing 1,000,000 XP to get Level 100 earning XP isn’t that motivating when you are way past that number and you know that you have enough XP any future levels.
They should have left the XP system as is.
What about those people just starting out on their fitness journey, is it selfish or motivation to them when they complete to days in a week and get a thank you ☺️
motivated people are already motivated, but I believe anyway we can encourage people to find using this platform to help in their health and wellbeing, should be used,
I think there should be unlimited levels, some days when you don’t want to do anything, just seeing that your close to the next level can positively change your mood 😉
I wish they would stop messing with the XP system. Just leave it alone and let us get used to it. Add more levels, implement paint options as prizes if they are running out of ideas. Just stop changing it all the time 😞
white shoes, black socks…..Violation
Absolutely agree.
Agree…white shoes are ALWAYS a violation.
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False, Chris. White shoes are pro! 😀
Matthieu Van Der Poel winning Roubaix in white shoes would like to disagree
He is the world champ in two disciplines and gets paid to ride…he can wear what he, or his sponsors, want…hopefully he has rainbow stripes on his shoes. The rest of us are Plebes….
haha- i agree, but i do have a pair of white shoes, and a pair of black shoes IRL both i wear black socks 🙃
So i have 465.000 XP.
I’m lvl 63. I m guessing it was +/- 5000xp per level. So i would be 37 x 5000 = 185.000xp to get lvl 100. So if i understand it correct zwift is correcting this to 535.000xp. that seams a bit cruel 🥴. Ride on.
Again nothing for Clubs. No Extensions for the Clubfuntions…we’re looking forward to the custom Workouts for Clubs…
Eric a few months ago: there’s no problem with the new xp system, and even if there was, how would you even change it to fix the problems, you can’t!
Eric today: Good news everybody, they fixed the xp system!
It wasn’t hard, the max level xp is higher than the old max level (60) xp. Lower levels are still just as easy to earn, the very higher levels are now properly hard to earn. They should have done this from the beginning instead of changing the system twice. But at least we reached a reasonable end point eventually.
Is that something I said? Or are you talking about a different Eric?
My thoughts are here: https://zwiftinsider.com/level-100-thoughts/
Yeah, I read that article, you are very much in support of the changes, with a few small points. So while my comment simplified the matter, it does present a general landscape: you largely supported the new levels back then and downplayed the issues, and now you are here to tell us the good news that the issues have been fixed.
‘When I got a preview of Zwift’s changes, my initial thought was “Finally, more levels to chase!” I also liked the idea of Zwift making the steps between each level more even and progressive.’
‘While I’m personally fine with all the changes Zwift made (even if I think they could have done some of them differently for better outcomes)’
You’re mischaracterizing (misinterpreting?) what I’ve said in this and previous posts, but I’m not going to spend a lot of time trying to convince you otherwise. You clearly have your own views about XP/levels, and believe they don’t match my views.
Read this with an open mind (https://zwiftinsider.com/level-100-thoughts/) and you’ll see what I was in favor of is Zwift adding more levels. But I basically found issue with how they did it in almost every way – accelerated leveling is confusing, there’s still a level cap at 100, levelling up was too fast, etc.
And on this actual page about this today’s update, I don’t say they’ve fixed everything and its good news (where do you get that?). I just share the information about what’s being changed.
Don’t confuse me communicating information with me taking a stand. Just because I share information without comment doesn’t mean I support those changes… one isn’t required to share their opinion on every bit of news they share… especially when it’s a news article about Zwift.
“You’re mischaracterizing (misinterpreting?) what I’ve said in this and previous posts”
What did I mischaracterize about what you said in this post? You seem to be presenting the new changes in a positive light? Is that incorrect? I don’t know what you think about the new changes because you haven’t said, but I don’t think I’m wrong in interpreting this article as presenting the new changes positively.
I also don’t think I’m wrong in saying that you were largely in favour of the level changes a few months back. I read that article, you generally don’t seem to agree with most of the criticisms you wrote about that, and a few of them you think zwift could have gone further to do better.
“You clearly have your own views about XP/levels, and believe they don’t match my views.”
Everyone has those own views on it, and that is okay. No one should expect their views to match anyone else’s views. That is not what I’m getting at here. But, you a suggesting that your own views match mine? If so then you are not doing a good job of conveying that.
“Read this with an open mind”
Yes, I did. I will ask you in turn to read what I am writing next with an open mind as well. If you do I think you will find that you might learn something about how your words are understood.
“But I basically found issue with how they did it in almost every way – accelerated leveling is confusing…”
Let’s examine this. The article introduces it under the heading “Let’s Summarize the Responses”, okay, so this is just what other people have said so far, this isn’t Eric’s thoughts yet, just feedback that is floating around. Let’s read the entire section for anything that would support your statement that you found issue with it.
“Zwift’s new accelerated leveling schemes aren’t easy to wrap one’s head around.”
Does this find fault with the accelerated leveling system? I don’t think it does. One could also say ‘Sticky ways aren’t easy to wrap one’s head around’, that isn’t a criticism, that is just describing it as not simple.
“You don’t have to understand accelerated leveling in order to take advantage of it… just ride, and the leveling happens.”
This seems to sum things up, ‘it doesn’t matter too much, you are benefiting’.
“Regardless, it’s a pretty complex setup to understand, and Zwift’s latest version of accelerated leveling is the most complex yet!”
Another statement but without finding fault. We don’t know how you feel, maybe you think ‘yep, it’s complicated, but any system which takes into account all the factors at play here must be’.
“If you’re still confused by Zwift’s accelerated leveling scheme, and simply must fully understand it, read the “Accelerated Leveling” section on this post.”
And then after all that we find this statement, which seems to put the onus back on the people saying it’s too complicated. It almost sounds like ‘I just explained it, it’s simple, but if you still don’t get it go over there”
And then at the bottom of the article you say:
“Personally, I’m about 50% in the #6 “All Good” camp. I resonate with #3 and #5”
Here you are directly saying that all the issues mention you do not agree with and are only presenting the opinions of others, except for #3 and #5 which you partially agree with. This is very explicit and direct. So you are saying that you do not agree with #1 (accelerated leveling is confusing). If you had agreed with those other issues you would have said it here.
“And on this actual page about this today’s update, I don’t say they’ve fixed everything and its good news (where do you get that?). I just share the information about what’s being changed.”
I didn’t say that you said they fixed everything. And yes the changes are presented in a positive light because you pasted zwifts words directly (they are going to present themselves positively I think we both agree), although even though you did not put them inside quotes or italics you did state they were zwifts words, the fact remains there is only positive words on this page about them.
“Don’t confuse me communicating information with me taking a stand. Just because I share information without comment doesn’t mean I support those changes… one isn’t required to share their opinion on every bit of news they share… especially when it’s a news article about Zwift.”
Okay, so then you are against these new changes? I’m a little confused because you start your comment by claiming that we both have the same views and I just don’t know it. And no, I didn’t think you were taking any kind of stand in this article, but simply communicating information doesn’t make one neutral, there are choices about which information to communicate and which to not communicate, which to feature, which to repeat, and which to bury, how much space to give to direct quotes, etc.
Yikes, dude… I get what you’re trying to say but I think there might be more productive uses of your time…
Thanks! Have a good day!
The “Party On!” badge is going to be the hardest 50 points anyone can earn.
I pity the badge hunters, and unlike Everesting, it’s not even a hidden badge.
Yikes! I am qt 217/217 badges, and now there’s a 218th I have no control on…Just sheer luck!
so you have the running ones too?
i got a couple of friends and we’re all close, so i know ill get it eventually.
The speed of leveling up be it fast or slow wasn’t the reason I joined Zwift, I joined for the cycling, the online club rides, races and TTT events. With that came a whole bunch of new people to ride with from around the world, most on which I will never meet in the IRL.
I say Ride On.
‘We’ve heard your feedback’ is the biggest joke this April. Zwift have an uncanny ability to develop features nobody asks for while resolutely ignoring those the community ask for again and again and again and…..
This is very true indeed.
And yet, in the specific case above, what they wrote is absolutely true.
Zwift rolled out the Level 100 changes. Zwifters complained levelling up was too easy. Zwift heard it. And is changing it.
some Zwifters complained levelling up was too easy
Some zwifters = the very vocal minority that spends as much time arguing on the forum as riding. Virtual freds?
And it was mainly the Zwifters who were already at the top of the rankings doing the complaining. Easy to get to the top and pull out the rug under everyone coming after you to make it harder for them to join you.
It was exactly the opposite: we ground our way to level 60 (750.000 XP) and then Zwift replaced our ‘ladder’ with an ‘elevator’ to level 100 (591.000 XP).
Of course there is the acceleration feature, but the double XP we are paying for ourselves with the excess XP we already earned.
So it is not about making life harder for others. It is about making the achievement of level 100 the same for everybody. And in that sense I think this is a change for the better.
Correct I have suggested some very simple changes to improve the visual user experience and Zwift ignored it.
So those who were high in the levels were complaing the other got an easy ride while thye had to do the hard work and called the others cheats.
Now they had an easy ride to 100 or at least high in the 90’s while the others now have to work much harder than they did.
Are we now all cheats ?
I still don’t know what to do with my millions if drops. Give me something!
If Zwift makes leveling up much harder (only months after revamping the old systeme completely – who´s idea was that…) this seems to suggest that we won´t see new, faster bikes and wheels unlocking at way higher levels (clearly above the current levels 30ies/40ies). Everything else would hit Zwift racing significantly.
I’d be happy with new, just as fast bikes and wheels unlocking at higher levels. There doesn’t need to be a performance advantage but everyone using the same few combinations gets boring.
so a few vocal people effected a change im guessing most dont want. fu zwift
The level system is completely wrong. I’m seringen riders with less miles/kilometers than me with a higher level on Zwift…
Because there are different ways to earn XP.
Every single 1 hour+ workout I do is up the Alpe for the spinner at the top and free XP on the downhill for example. That’s an average of 600 XP (2x) on top for every workout.
That also means way less miles of course than if I did a flat route.
The people i’m talking about are not using that magic trick… they catched up on me just with the introduction of the new leveling system
Click click, new socks? How about Robo Pacers in more places?? Teleporting between Robo Pacers was to me, the best thing to happen to Zwift yet. Now can we please see them in more worlds?
What I would like to see is a rider level indicator in the rider list on the right hand side of the screen. There is a niece piece of real estate available between the time gap and the wkg numbers
If I defer the update, then I will get 500 bonus points every week?
Can we get the ability to edit our garage. Either remove unwanted items permanently, or archive them or change their order on the screen. Eg wheels. We only ever use a few sets and yet have dozens and dozens in the garage. Thanks
We keep asking for this but they keep giving us rubbish that we don’t need or want …
Those that have already reached 100 will be given confetti socks so they can spray those around them and remind them how the goal posts have been moved and the others will now have to earn an additional 409,000 XP just to get to the same level. Good thinking Zwift.
I’d like to see some numbers how many level 100 riders actually have less than the new threshold of 1 million XP.
I doubt it’s very many. Even for level 90 I’d think the vast majority of riders are at >950k XP and therefore won’t be negatively affected.
We’ve had the new system for roughly 4 months, I doubt too much damage has been done. Most people who are at level 100 or close to it have been Zwifters for many years.
FWIW, right now there’s not even any acknowledgment in game when you reach 1.000.000 XP.
L86 with 1.5M XP’s
That’s not how it’s going to work. Zwift has stated in the forum thread linked above that the XP needed to get from one level to the next will be the same for everyone. The 1 million figure it what you would need if you started from level 0 in the new system.
Another worthless update with stuffs that noone really gives shit.
Where is more club stuff? Group custom workout? More bikes and wheels????
This is catastrophic management nightmare. Moving the target twice in 6 months sets up for additional changes in the future at the whim of those in the Puzzle Palace. This creates a sense of hopelessness and loss of focus for those goal oriented type A’s that hammer away on a trainer to reach a whole myriad of achievements in IRL. Most likely in the final analysis it was found out that the revised edition is giving away too many XPs and it needs to be throttled back. I’m calling BS on any focus groups or feedback. Previous comments from subscribers much further along than I suggest leaving the current revision it’s place and amend the levels to greater than 100 and stretch the XPs needed there. Listen to your long tenured customers! 50….60….100 571K 1MM What’s next?????
I might be confused. I’ve got about 510k xp and am on level 66. I also have about 20.5 days accumulated riding time. So, I’m slightly over half way to the new 100 to come in May (1,000,000 xp). At 6 hours of riding a week, that is like another year and a half to get to 2x my current riding time and therefore double my xp. I imagine it’ll feel nice to get that final level.
591000 to 1million. !!!!! Pretty poor form Zwift.
So disappointed with this decision. So many people up toward level 90+ working consistently to their goal and you shift the goal posts by making it double. Not even incremental for those who are close. We now face another year +. Yet people who farmed xp points and have less riding are already there.
You chose to change it take it easier in the first place. Why not honour your change and leave the current requirements up to level 100 as is. Then 100 onward (to 150?) implement the new requirements.
Umm, just to point out the obvious, why didn’t they just add another 100 levels??? All that extra work to adjust something that was actually working, yes levelling up may have been a bit ‘easier’ than the previous system well until about lv85
I have done nearly 10 cycles of the orange bar (we count it as another level as if you didn’t get any bonuses it takes about 600km to fill) but it’s not as satisfying as watching increase of your level, that was earned through blood, sweat and tears.
I was capped at 25, then they added levels. I was capped at 50, then they added levels. I was capped at 60 then they added levels. Now I am at level 80, with 1,200,000 XP so more than enough for level 100 if they ever allow me to get there. This moving the goal posts has to stop.
OTOH, anyone who has more than a million XP on the game probably has ridden at least 40,000 km, using the double XP rides, route badge bonuses, and other XP gains besides distance. I doubt anyone doing that much riding in the game (myself included) cares about the little trinkets given out as level unlocks. The only two unlocks that were worthwhile are the fire socks, and the Tron bike.
BTW I have left my Climb Mt. Everest challenge active after completion in case they count the accumulated climbing after getting to the top. Now I have 11 Tron bikes banked for when they move those goalposts.
Quality information as always Eric. Thank you.
Understandably there are mixed responses to this one. Zwift provides many motivators in game, XP being one of them. For me, at level 58, I share the frustration of others that I will have to do more to reach level 100 than those who have done a great job of achieving it already.
Zwift has definitely been unfair in this update with that regard. Ideally, they should create levels 101 and onward, making those more difficult to achieve via XP increases. Zwifters already on level 100 can have double XP until their stored XP is used up, as before, thus meaning everyone will have undertaken the same efforts to level up.
There are so many improvements Zwift could make. Messing about with XP requirements to reach levels already achieved by some riders, is a mistake, not an improvement to me.
Thank you again Eric for your ‘insider’ info. 1st class.
Oh man, I was really lucky.
With the old level system I got the good things like Cannondale Evo, DT Swiss Dicut 62, Canyon Aeroad and Canyon Speedmax Disc cheaply.
Then came the faster level for me with level 28, and now with level 40, with which I got the dt swiss dicut disc and dogma f, I got everything I wanted. Now I don’t care about the following changes, the things you get per level aren’t used anyway, and otherwise after 40 it’s just a number for me.
We need more wheels and bikes at higher level.
I always thought it was the miles that you ride that mattered the most not XP.
Maybe I’m just older 🧓
A level does not make you a better rider at all.
So what’s the matter? 🤔
Mount Fuji is coming. So super secret.
I was able to go from Level 60 to 100 easily as the XP requirement was too low for people who ride a lot on Zwift. It was obvious at the start this was a poor decision.
I feel Zwift changed things initially because they cater to the people who don’t use the platform too much, but they need these people to keep numbers and revenue up. Everything on Zwift is geared to these occasional and\or slow riders as there are more of them, this is why we don’t simply have mass start races as slow people need to be rewarded for “winning”.
I fear now that they have a tough decision to make because it could mean some people need a huge amount* to get their next level up as they won’t have the XP required for their current level. Zwift have 2 ways of “fixing” this:
Give people free XP so they have enough for the current level
Put in place an further increased rate for them to “earn” this missing XP
Neither of these solutions is ideal as it rewards people who haven’t used the Platform as much as others.
To make things fair for everybody on the Platform they should take the hard decision and reduce people’s levels so they end up on the level that their current XP matches. This way nobody gets an unfair advantage and if they decide to add future levels they don’t have a situation where some people still haven’t made up the deficit from this change and are already demotivated as they haven’t levelled up for ages.
*Example – If you are on level 98 when they make the change you will only need to get to 580,000 XP to make it to level 99. Once here will now need 420,000 XP to get to level 100 which is a ridiculous amount of XP.
Baloney. The draft dynamics were exclusively changed solely for racers. I’ve been on Zwift since Jarvis. I ride on average 200 miles a week year round on Zwift. I don’t race and I’m a solid Cat D rider. My perspective is the game has changed for the younger Cat C and up riders. The levels are meaningless to me as I’ve been here from the start. If leveling up faster keeps an average rider motivated enough to ride that’s a success to me.
Managed to sort out the Chrome OS issue yet? game starts but constantly not responding box appears across the screen!!
I really hope we get an option to turn off the confetti. Would not be fun if in a race a few would start giving ride on’s in the final sprint and I get a pop up that I have a new badge on my screen and filled with confetti.
Just as the highlight please give us an option to turn it off.
Just don’t wear the socks…. Simple
On version 1.62 level 100 however no socks in garage!
While I would agree with the general principle that Zwift made the revised level system too easy, they have completely botched this revision of the revision. In the same way as there was talk of the UCI retrospectively banning aero helmets that had already met their guidelines, Zwift can’t just roll back their own level structure without pissing many people off. By the way, if levels don’t motivate you look away now. There are however plenty of Zwifters who are motivated by this going by the backlash.
If they do implement this mess, they need to increase the accelerated XP for those who were stuck on level 50 for years. For example I had already earned double the amount of XP required to reach level 100 when the 60-100 expansion released. By all means encourage long-term zwifters to keep coming back to earn the new levels. But don’t move the goalposts without taking that historical XP into account when calculating the new accelerator – that hasn’t been mentioned anywhere.
Reeks of desperation and amateur hour at Zwift.
Time to read the ToS people.
April Fool?
I wonder how many people complaining about the level up changes take coffee breaks every thirty minutes or on any section with a slight grade?
This affects you how? I take you as a flyer always in chat boasting about how fast you are in a Miguel ride doing a recovery ride from your last race with your buddies.
Thanks Eric!
I’ve never been so disillusioned about my cycling. The changes Zwift continues to make regarding the grading system. I was on level 55 before the first change and now on level 70 with 27000km under my belt. Others have level 43 and only done 7500km, what is that about.
They should have made everybody hit the old 60 then changed it once hitting this target. Levels are hard, not meant to be easily achieved, hard work and challenges; much like life even if you make grades easy, life is not like that.
I think it is time to move on to Rouvy who have upgraded their platform and still have the challenges. Yours disillusioned
I’ve been splitting my indoor riding between Zwift and Rouvy for the past three years now, due largely to my growing frustration with Zwift and the various management snafus we’ve all seen. Zwift is a better package if you care primarily about the “social” stuff. Rouvy is superior in just about every other aspect—and continues to improve on a regular basis.
I’m at almost 750k XP points in Zwift and have been riding on the platform since 2016 (about 22-23k actual miles) so I’m reluctant to abandon it entirely even though it’s a classic “sunk cost.” I keep hoping—very much against experience—that Zwift will get things sorted out at some point, If not, I can attest that Rouvy is very much on the upswing and has a truly massive advantage in terms of routes available for riders at all skill levels.
What? I just got a badge because someone with confetti socks gave me ride on. Why is this an achievement? This is plain stupid.
And I don’t want the 2xp either. How can I turn this off?
And they broke steering silently. The avatar steers himself to the standard position after some seconds. So annoying.
This is a problem that needs to be fixed immediately. It does not allow for precise movements.
I don’t think that’s any different than it’s been for months, though. After you steer, if you don’t do anything for 4 seconds, it will auto steer you into what it thinks is the best position for you to draft.
Which isn’t always helpful…
No, it happens now without any draft on empty roads and it seems more powerful than before. In the Zwift update forum are already some complaints, so it seems to be something that came with 1.62.
Just chatted with an internal contact at Zwift. He says they know about this bug and it’s fixed in the next version (releasing around April 16).
Thank‘s a lot, Eric!
Last time I was at level 59.5 now at 77.5. To me it seem they are in panic mode at Zwift HQ. Just put me in a level according to my earned xp points (they can keep the sunglasses, hats, fire and confetti socks and other unnecessary stuff) Make it a fair product and leave it that way. Even better: scrap xp and use km or miles. The metric system works great for earning a Tron bike.
Or: When you reach 1.000.000 xp add a bronze star behind the rider’s name and start over again. Silver for 2 and gold for 3. The system is already invented. Or just add extra levels. All the other calculations done by Zwift every few month’s are not fair and look unprofessional.
It does not feel okay to strive for something that will be changed every few month’s and that has a completely different outcome depending the level you are in when they change it again. I will keep track of my progress with Strava from now.
Start fixing the other bugs; there are plenty according to the other posts.
I just got awarded the “Party-On” achievment. I have no idea how it got it as i don’t have the confetti socks. i know that a level 100 rider has to give the kudo, but i thought that i read that you have to be at level 100 yourself in order to unlock the achievement.
btw there was no confetti, i am still at level 89
I’m astounded by Zwift HQ’s approach to product management. This release might be the nudge I need to look seriously at Rouvy.
DO WHAT YOU WANT WHENEVER YOU WANT
HE DOES IT, TOO!
I had already 740,000 points with level 59 when suddenly a change of system occured!! The former highest level 60 was my goal.
No reaction of Mr. ZWIFT himself at all I joined ROUVY. I am so happy with my decision.
THANKS FOR THE SUPPORT