Watopia Expansion Teaser: Eric Min and Jon Mayfield Ride… in Jarvis?

Zwift turns 10 this fall, and over the years, Eric Min and others at the company have leaked activities on Strava to tease new roads and other features.

The last Strava leak of new roads was Eric Min’s ride in Neokyo in November of 2021. But today, Zwift co-founders Eric Min and Jon Mayfield appear to have ridden together on the upcoming Watopia expansion.

See Jon’s ride on Strava, titled “Only time I’ll have the KOM jersey” >
See Eric’s ride on Strava, titled “Zwift Expansion — the early peek!” >
See Jon’s ride on Zwift.com >
See Eric’s ride on Zwift.com >

Some screenshots from Strava:

I reached out to Jon Mayfield when I saw his ride, and he told me, “Last time I ever had a KOM and a sprint jersey was back on the day we launched the original Jarvis.”

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Digging Into the Data

Looking at the Strava map of Eric and Jon’s rides with a little help from ZwiftMap for Strava, we can see the shape of the new roads and that they connect to existing Watopia roads via a spur from the Volcano Circuit:

If that shape looks familiar, you may be an OG Zwifter. It’s the exact shape of Jarvis, the original Zwift island. After months of speculation, we’ve found our answer: Zwift is bringing Jarvis back! A fitting move for the 10-year anniversary.

Jon’s activity shows the loop’s profile as he rides a counterclockwise lap first, then flips a u-turn to ride it clockwise:

Eric’s ride used a route titled “Deca Dash” (you can see the route name at the top-left on the minimap, which is sporting a fresh route profile that I’m sure will be released soon):

The Deca Dash route appears to be 10 laps of the new loop (hence the “Deca” name) for a total of 47km. This indicates that the new loop is 4.7km in length.

Looking at Jon and Eric’s rides in the Companion app confirms that each lap also includes sprint, KOM, and lap leaderboard segments, in both directions. Currently they’re simply titled “Jarvis KOM”, “Jarvis Sprint” and “Jarvis Lap”:

The screenshots give us some metrics for two of the segments:

  • Jarvis KOM Reverse: 1.3km at 3.1%
  • Jarvis Sprint Reverse: 200 meters at 0.2%

Availability

Zwift has said Watopia’s expansion will be available to ride in Tour of Watopia events beginning tomorrow, November 12. So my guess is we’ll all be in Watopia-Jarvis very soon.

Your Thoughts

Excited for some fresh roads, scenery, and leaderboard segments? What are your thoughts on Zwift’s latest expansion? Share below!

Eric Schlange
Eric Schlangehttps://zwiftinsider.com
Eric runs Zwift Insider in the spare time he finds between riding his bike and managing various business interests. He lives in Northern California with his beautiful wife Monica. Follow on Strava

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Neil
Neil
1 year ago

I think this is great and love the Jarvis throwback. I am surprised though it’s a closed loop.. It would have been great to have another connecting road or two to really open up Watopia. Maybe in the future. Looking forward to riding it.

Last edited 1 year ago by Neil
Andrew
Andrew
1 year ago
Reply to  Neil

Connector roads are always nice for the new routes they open up, but it could still be quite useful though as it could allow for existing routes to be expanded to incorporate any number of laps of the new “Jarvis Loop” into them, which could make for interesting Points races in particular. A lot will depend on how Zwift make it available. So, for instance, the Richmond Fan Flats or After Party routes allow for organisers to set X amount of ‘laps’ of the pan flat section, so if people could do that but integrated into the middle of various existing Watopia routes it could be interesting

Neil
Neil
1 year ago
Reply to  Andrew

Completely agree, but having a second connecting road wouldn’t stop that. You could still do laps. I’m sure a future expansion will open it up. Looks great though.

Paul
Paul
1 year ago
Reply to  Neil

Judge it when you see it 👍

Neil
Neil
1 year ago
Reply to  Paul

Not really sure what your point is?

Francisco
Francisco
1 year ago
Reply to  Neil

Neil – Paul’s point is…it ain’t worth 20 bucks a month for a 2015 route with buffed 1985 graphics and gigantic HUD bud!

jonno143
jonno143
1 year ago
Reply to  Francisco

You’re not paying 20 bucks a month for that though. You’re paying for everything else, plus now a bit more.

Happy With Zwift
Happy With Zwift
1 year ago
Reply to  Francisco

Smash that cancel button!!

Andrew
Andrew
1 year ago

There has been a YT video around for a few weeks now showing the upcoming “Jarvis” expansion section: https://youtu.be/_PxOsIIqvcE?si=dHpQUeaPFy86Su4s

Kristian
Kristian
1 year ago

I just barely missed Jarvis in the beginning. Glad to try it now.

Vic
Vic
1 year ago

All the routes (all new?) seem to say 1 Lap for now for the given distances, but this may be incorrect since the route info isn’t known yet.

newRoutes
Greg Rajkovic
Greg Rajkovic
1 year ago
Reply to  Eric Schlange

The new routes are also shown in the Companion app and have been for about a week under Routes.

jonno143
jonno143
1 year ago
Reply to  Vic

I’d wager those are correct – the 6 new routes are in the companion lap already with other segments they travel through also listed, so we can pretty much work out the routes [read no further if you want to be surprised!].

Deca dash is the longest but only has the three new segments (climb, sprint, lap) – we know now why, it’s a 10 lap of the new circuit. Waisted 8 goes via Fuego reverse, takes in the new climb and sprint and includes the Hilly Loop at some point. Looping Lava does a lap of the new circuit and the Volcano climb. The other new routes are “Coast to Coast” which is 16.3 mi and has the new lap segments plus Woodland sprint (the first sprint on the southern coast road), then there’s “The Classic” which is 5.6mi and only has the new segments (probably a lead in then a lap), and finally “Triple Twist” which has the new KOM and Sprint, then the original sprint and the Zwift KOM.

Jeff "The Zebra" Heisler
Jeff "The Zebra" Heisler
1 year ago

Zwift – The Return of Jarvis….soon on a device near yo you. 🤪

For some of us ..memories from long ago. Ride On and On and On

Andreas
Andreas
1 year ago

When was this de-implemented? 

Last edited 1 year ago by Andreas
Zebra
Zebra
1 year ago
Reply to  Andreas

Jarvis Island was the Beta Platform and was de-implemented in 2015…when Zwift launched public with Watopia.

KJ Phillips
KJ Phillips
1 year ago

Very cool! As a huge Zwift fan/rider who didn’t know about the platform until my Soccer injury (and the pandemic) happened, I’ve always been a little jelly of those who go to ride Jarvis…I am sooooooo psyched about this!

Ivan
Ivan
1 year ago

Connecting with other worlds would be absolutely awesome!

Ivan
Ivan
1 year ago

Did anyone notice UI and elevation change? Also, GPL posted a video review of a new VR trainer with a new UI 🙂

Jim Bones
1 year ago
Reply to  Ivan

Where?

Lucas
Lucas
1 year ago
Reply to  Jim Bones

In some of the screenshots. One of the best upgrades of the new UI is taking forever!

Ivan
Ivan
1 year ago
Reply to  Jim Bones

Go to his YT channel, he released a video about it (leaked in his previous video, probably have a beta access).

https://youtu.be/VqQ-AxDP7Bs?si=3FKMTBAQgEA2BT0N

Boo
Boo
1 year ago

Quite useless expansion, just chat for nerds

Bob
Bob
1 year ago

…so still no velodrome?

Griff
Griff
1 year ago
Reply to  Bob

I don’t get the appeal here. Without braking, turning and collision avoidance which Zwift doesn’t have natively what would the point be? I’m not knocking the idea I just haven’t been able to understand it from those that want it. If Zwift had the aforementioned features, then yeah, I totally get it! But that’s hardware and software updates that will take a LOT of work.

Mathis
Mathis
1 year ago
Reply to  Griff

It opens up the options to completely new types of events. I find the 20km points races on the forest velodrome (sprint every 2km) to be some of the most fun races I’ve done. The dynamics is very different on this type of track. That’s in IndieVirtual, I mean Training Peaks Velo … ahh whatever, you get the idea.

Bob
Bob
1 year ago
Reply to  Griff

Braking and turning are available natively. And the velodrome seems like it would be a perfect way to show off the capabilities of the play controllers.

The possibilities certainly seem more intriguing than recreating a 10-year-old map that other than nostalgia for a few doesn’t really offer anything new.

Bob
Bob
1 year ago
Reply to  Bob

And Im sure the velodrome is coming at some point. We’e seen the dev shots of it. Just hoping it will be in this release

dan
dan
1 year ago
Reply to  Bob

a velodromes only good for a platform with not many subscribers – not thousands. bkool has one; go there and stop being a bother.

E.M.Brown
E.M.Brown
1 year ago
Reply to  Bob

In a recent podcast, Zwift confirmed the existence of the Velodrome in their development environments but also indicated that it was very early and it would be awhile. I think when they release it, they will want a host of features around it as well to make it something more worthwhile than just a track oval.

GravelHunter
GravelHunter
1 year ago
Reply to  E.M.Brown

Can you link the podcast ?

Malc
Malc
1 year ago

Damn. I was hoping for a portal where you could ride around and jump into any of the other worlds.

Griff
Griff
1 year ago
Reply to  Malc

Like…the main menu? Data wise that would be a nightmare and then plotting it to “the earth” for Strava would also be a nightmare without stopping and starting a new ride.

Mathis
Mathis
1 year ago
Reply to  Griff

The Strava thing they seem to have sorted given that you get the same issue when teleporting around the same world and that works.

Griff
Griff
1 year ago

Always happy to see new roads on the map.

Michael
Michael
1 year ago

What a beautiful hat-tip and nod to their founding. Love this and can’t wait to ride the new road!

Andreas
Andreas
1 year ago

Very interesting, and also fun to have a recap of an (not so old) interview with Eric Min where he was asked about bringing back Jarvis, where the reply was something like “for maps development we only look into the future”. =) Super excited about this though!

BarneyAndFriends
BarneyAndFriends
1 year ago

Ok, this may not be popular, but I’m massively disappointed by this for a few reasons:

  1. Even though I’ve never ridden Jarvis island, Version 1 of anything usually sucks.
  2. Looks like a loop that’s off a corner of Watopia. Doesn’t do much for new interconnections so that you can construct new and more interesting and varied routes.
  3. It’s a very small amount of new road especially compared to recent expansions.

Was hoping for better honestly.

Markus
Markus
1 year ago

It’s like getting a “fun size” candy bar. I’d rather have it than nothing but still.

Erlendur
Erlendur
1 year ago

There are new routes; Loopin Lava at 18.4 km, Waisted 8 at 30.9 km and then Deca Dash at 52.6 km.

Erlendur
Erlendur
1 year ago
Reply to  Erlendur

And then there are Triple Twist at 24.5 km, Coast to Coast at 26.8 km and finally The Classic at 9.0 km.

Manel R.
Manel R.
1 year ago

Less than 5km is what you call a new expansion? Come on Zwift HQ, I think and would like to believe it can be done better than that….. can’t it?

Nikolai
Nikolai
1 year ago

Does this mean we soon get a new Pretzel? 😂

Manel R.
Manel R.
1 year ago
Reply to  Nikolai

A lego one I guess😂

Kirk Schroeder
Kirk Schroeder
1 year ago

I think this is AMAZING. I started Zwift in 2019 so sadly I never got to ride Jarvis Island until (almost) now. So what if it’s only 5km of road. It still makes for AMAZING new routes with how much Watopia already has (and still more to come I bet). I think it was a “fitting” move to get people “fit” for Zwift’s Decade birthday. Happy Birthday, Zwift. You’re awesome. Can’t wait to see what you do next. Ride On!

Carrie
Carrie
1 year ago

When will route details be available? I like to see routes before doing new ones

Carrie
Carrie
1 year ago
Reply to  Eric Schlange

Do you know if these will be totally open routes or if any will be event only? So Deca Dash is the mini version of the PRL Full it seems

Jim
Jim
1 year ago

while it’s fun that they’re bringing back jarvis, imo it’s pretty pathetic that we’ll have to do with 5km of new roads.

also, please merge all the small words together with makuri and thus create 2 large worlds that are worth our time. Watopia (fantasy) and Earth (based on real locations)

Bob
Bob
1 year ago
Reply to  Jim

Agreed! It’s always seemed to me like it would make a lot of sense for Crit City, in particular, to be placed in to Watopia so that it could be combined with other routes.

Andreas
Andreas
1 year ago

To be honest. I’m a bit disappointed with what we see here, I hope when it’s completely revealed there will be some worthwhile features and I’ll be proved wrong. Even cycling a lap 10 times doesn’t seem too innovative to me. 

I had hoped that there would be a new mountain expansion. I particularly like the replicas of well-known live climbs like ven top or AdH. 

A velodrome would also have been something different, provided that suitable events are also implemented. 

In between I had also imagined that it would be cool to integrate Makuri Island (or even all worlds) into Watopia. Technically it should be possible and the new routes that could be designed would be enormous. Come to think of it, something like this would have done justice to a 10 year old.
I’m still looking forward to the Tour of Watopia – Stage 5 event and hope that my current expectations will be exceeded. 

jonno143
jonno143
1 year ago
Reply to  Andreas

I mean, they released a massive mountainous expansion less than 6 months ago? This seems more like a fun little legacy extra for the anniversary.

samroneja
samroneja
1 year ago

It’s going to be very interesting to see hundreds of people riding a 4.7km loop. Will the pacelines get bigger or smaller as people start getting lapped? Will Zwift say that the person you lap is 4.7km behind or will it say 0km behind?

I wouldn’t be surprised if Zwift were using this route to see if a Velodrome would work.

Philip
Philip
1 year ago

Great news but, I would expect to see more and longer new roads given price rises etc the quality of game needs to improve in a comencerate manner.

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