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    Pace Partners Now Riding In Makuri Islands

    Eric Schlange
    By Eric Schlange
    November 30, 2021
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    Zwift’s Pace Partners are probably the most popular feature added to the game in the past couple of years. And today, Pace Partners began riding new tarmac for the first time in a long time… because they’ve been rolled out to the Makuri Islands!

    Currently, the same four pace partners are being used in Makuri Islands as we’ve seen in Watopia. The route’s they’re riding are all in the Yumezi portion of the map:

    • A. Anquetil on Countryside Tour at 4.2 w/kg
    • B. Brevet on Chain Chomper at 3.3 w/kg
    • C. Cadence on Kappa Quest at 2.5 w/kg
    • D. Diesel on Three Village Loop at 1.5 w/kg
    • D. Diesel
    • C. Cadence
    • B. Brevet
    • A. Anquetil

    How To Ride with a Pace Partner

    Joining a Pace Partner is easy! Remember, Pace Partners are only available in the Watopia and Makuri Islands worlds at this time.

    Just select one of those worlds from the tabs at the top of the homescreen, then click the Pace Partners box at the top of the rider list. This will bring up a window where you can select a Pace Partner to join.

    Questions or Comments?

    If you have feedback for Zwift on this feature, please post it on the official Zwift forum thread. You’re also free to comment below!

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      Eric Schlange
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      Jeff Pearson
      Jeff Pearson(@misterpearson)
      6 months ago

      Strange course for Coco.

      But, happy to have them there.

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      Eric Schlange
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      Eric Schlange(@eschlange)
      6 months ago
      Reply to  Jeff Pearson

      Agreed… a very climby route considering alternatives like Flatland Loop are available.

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      Jimmy B
      Jimmy B
      6 months ago
      Reply to  Eric Schlange

      Agreed and would hate to get dumped onto the middle of the climb when starting out with no warmup.

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      Ralph R Allen
      Ralph R Allen
      6 months ago
      Reply to  Jimmy B

      2.5w/kg is 2.5w/kg regardless of the simulated terrain. Shouldnt ever matter where you join, 2.5w/kg isn’t going to be significantly different.

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      Henze
      Henze
      6 months ago
      Reply to  Ralph R Allen

      If there was no draft, completely true. On flats however I only have to push 2.2 over an hour average (85kg) to keep up with the Coco bunch. 2.2 is never gonna make it on an uphill section, you will drop back quite soon.

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      Jim Winger
      Jim Winger
      6 months ago
      Reply to  Ralph R Allen

      at 91 kg it definitely makes a difference. I can keep up with C doing about 2.2 on tempus fugit.

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      Geert Kluessjen
      Geert Kluessjen
      6 months ago
      Reply to  Jeff Pearson

      Besides being climby the route is also largely (100% even?) on dirt, so that meaning different dynamics for people on MTB’s or Gravel bikes while Coco herself is probably riding the Tron.

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      dan
      dan
      6 months ago
      Reply to  Geert Kluessjen

      the bot on a climb is far too simple… you dont even have to be a climber to hang even without a warmup. its going down the hills which is a different story

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      Paul Rayner
      Paul Rayner(@paulrayner)
      6 months ago
      Reply to  Jeff Pearson

      When they already have a pace partner on a flat route in Watopia, I think it makes sense to mix it up when they add other pace partners. It adds more variety without detracting from the originals.

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      Paul Clubb
      Paul Clubb
      6 months ago

      Does this mean Makuri will be available all the time alongside Watopia

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      Eric Schlange
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      Eric Schlange(@eschlange)
      6 months ago
      Reply to  Paul Clubb

      Not anytime soon, no. But Zwift HAS said that they want Makuri Islands to built out to the size of Watopia, and I think this is a nod to the fact that Zwift sees this map as a high priority…

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      Charles Rogers
      Charles Rogers
      6 months ago

      Saw D.Diesel while I was pushing hard on my workout on Wandering Flats.

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      Peter
      Peter
      6 months ago

      Why not new set of Pace Partner?

      Perhaps a rider from country with a relatively large ridership; a Canadian, a Dane, a South American and an Asian pace partner.

      Last edited 6 months ago by Peter
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      RichK
      RichK
      6 months ago

      Could really use a 2.0 w/kg pacer. The jump from 1.5 to 2.5 is pretty steep.

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      Erin
      Erin
      6 months ago
      Reply to  RichK

      Fully agree Rich!

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      Ian
      Ian
      6 months ago
      Reply to  RichK

      Try riding a slower bike with D

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      dan
      dan
      6 months ago
      Reply to  Ian

      yeah, get a MTB and hang on the slower group; it evens it up

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      Steve Tinetti
      Steve Tinetti
      5 months ago
      Reply to  RichK

      I ride the Aspero gravel with D and it works out to 2.0 pretty consistently. Plus you have the benefit of dropping everyone in the dirt sections.

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      Konstantin Kleine
      Konstantin Kleine
      6 months ago

      Do they ride road or gravel bikes?

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      dan
      dan
      6 months ago
      Reply to  Konstantin Kleine

      trons

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      Russell Gilbert
      Russell Gilbert
      6 months ago

      Are they ever going to address the fact that uphills are slow, especially with Diesel at 1.5? It gets super frustrating. Hopefully I didn’t miss an update.

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      Ron ie
      Ron ie
      6 months ago

      Hi guys…frist of all good training platform. Can we make campion app more useful. Can we be able to trace Pacers leaders with deferent colours on the map than just looking the same with other riders around them so it can make it simple to chase them if ever you had to stop or had faulty connections. Thank you

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      Aaron Coles
      Aaron Coles
      6 months ago

      I like this!

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      R M
      R M
      6 months ago

      The pacers are completely useless at the moment.

      They are getting dropped on downhills due to their crazy stickiness.
      They are extremely slow on climbs and the bunch breaks up every f*cking time.

      Forcing riders onto dirt roads does not help at all either because of reduced speed and drafting effects.

      The only way for pacers to make sense is to make them ride only tarmac roads without climbs.
      But it appears Zwift is doing their best to make us feel uncomfortable.

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      Lucky
      Lucky
      6 months ago
      Reply to  R M

      Are you sure you tried all of the im talking A mr red him self???…just pick your own level and stop doing group C or D obvious you will drop them on hills or down bcoz they only using same pace unlike you u can push it up anytime. And also try group A races or group ride. My view zwift accommodates every one.

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      JayDee
      JayDee
      6 months ago
      Reply to  Lucky

      I was riding on ERG once and still dropped C Cadence in the desert. I am no heavy weight either at 68 kg.

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      Jeroen
      Jeroen
      6 months ago

      I saw this rather big ‘in between’ app update yesterday, do you know if that was because of this change? I also noticed a new green bow/arc when starting the Wandering Flats course, which seemed to mark the start/end of the course. Any more changes known?

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      Tony
      Tony
      6 months ago

      B. Brevet is 3.3w/kg not 3.2

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      Jay Z
      Jay Z
      6 months ago

      Will these pace partners still be riding when Makuri is not on the course calendar?

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      Jay Zehngebot
      Jay Zehngebot
      6 months ago
      Reply to  Jay Z

      The answer is : yes.

      For now, anyways, you can have a fairly private session with a pace partner.

      +1 for Server-side bots. This bodes well.

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      Joseph Keays
      Joseph Keays
      6 months ago
      Reply to  Jay Zehngebot

      It’s December 23 and I do not see the option for Pace Partner within Makuri when Makuri is not a listed world. When I set the preference to Makuri as my HOME, I do not see the option for Pace Partners. Am I doing something wrong? Did they change it back to only Watpoia gets this feature?

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      Jay Zehngebot
      Jay Zehngebot
      6 months ago
      Reply to  Joseph Keays

      Indeed, looks like they’ve turned off the full time pace partners on Makuri. Was kind of fun while it lasted.

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      Chris Allen
      Chris Allen
      5 months ago
      Reply to  Joseph Keays

      I was just riding Castle to Castle on 1/13/22 “world hacking via meetup” and definitely passed B. Brevet and D. Diesel going the other direction. The green and yellow glowing avatars made me check. On the companion I hit their dots and it was definitely them. So they’re atleast still running. I should have ripped a U-turn to see if I could hop on for extra drops but didn’t want to miss the course badge. Might be worth investigating another day though?

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      Terry Cox
      Terry Cox(@tcox37)
      6 months ago

      I like this. I would like to see them do the same thing with the running pace partners, to give us alternatives as well. (I’m one of THOSE people who uses Zwift to run, but I do not have a bike (yet))

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      steve
      steve
      5 months ago

      isn’t DD on the flatland course ?

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      Richard
      Richard
      5 months ago

      Hi Eric. Have you ever considered looking at the imapct of riding different bikes & wheels behind the pace partners? I generally find C. Cadence too slow for me (apart from the time I forgot to switch back from a gravel bike and was rapidly dropped!), but B. Brevet too fast. It would be interesting to know if you could simulate other W/Kg behind the pace partners by using different bikes & wheels (e.g. to need to ride at 3.0 W/Kg behind C. Cadence, use Frame X + Wheels Y; to need to ride at 2.7 W/Kg use Frame A… Read more »

      Last edited 5 months ago by Richard
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