“Trainer Difficulty” is absolutely the most misunderstood item in Zwift’s settings menu. Visible only to smart trainer users, Zwift’s support docs explain the setting like this:
Trainer Difficulty allows you to scale the feel of the climbs from 0 to 100%. This won’t make you any faster or slower as it still takes the same amount of power (watts) to move your avatar (by default, Zwift treats the gradient as half of the true grade).
Default setting: 50%
Trainer Difficulty is set at 50% by default, which is why Zwift says it “treats the gradient as half of the true grade.” So when you hit a 10% grade in Zwift, it feels like a 5% grade in the real world.
Why does Zwift default to 50% and not 100%? I’m not completely sure, but my guess is it has a lot to do with lower-end smart trainers only supporting maximum grades of ~7%.
What Does “Trainer Difficulty” Change?
100% difficulty: not recommended unless you’ve got a high-end trainer, a penchant for shifting often, and a need to punish yourself!
Lowering your Trainer Difficulty decreases resistance changes on hills. You still have to put in the same amount of power to get up (and down) the hill, but you will “feel” the hill less.
Another way to look at it: the Trainer Difficulty setting determines how much shifting you will need to do. Where you might typically use 7 of your gears when riding at the default 50% setting, lowering it to 25% would let you ride and only use ~3 gears, since the uphills and downhills will feel less steep.
Increasing your trainer difficulty, on the other hand, will force you to use more gears. So instead of 7, you may use 10 or 12, since the hills will feel steeper and you will need to shift more to maintain a healthy cadence. As Chris Pollotta said on the Zwift Riders Facebook group, “It’s a cadence control more than anything.”
What Does It Not Do?
It is important to understand that lowering or raising Trainer Difficulty does not change the power needed to get up the hill. You still have to put out the same cumulative watts to move the same distance as before… you’ll just be doing it in a different gear.
That said, a higher Trainer Difficulty will result in a higher VI due to more resistance fluctuation, which usually means your overall effort will feel more difficult. Because maintaining steady power is easier than doing intervals!
“Trainer Difficulty” really is a misleading name for the setting. Perhaps “Gradient Feel” or “Trainer Realism” would be better.
Getting Dropped On Downhills?
Set to 0%. You won’t feel any terrain changes on this setting.
One common complaint from smart trainer owners is that they get dropped by other riders on downhills.
The challenge is that smart trainer riders (whose resistance is constantly changing to match terrain) are competing against dumb trainer riders (whose resistance is constant). A smart trainer attempts to mimic the feel of real-world riding, where it is difficult to maintain high power levels on downhills. For a dumb trainer rider, the downhill feels just like the uphill and the flats, so they can put out a lot of power on those downhills while the smart trainer riders spin out.
On uphills the opposite happens–smart trainer riders often pass dumb trainer riders, because the dumb trainer riders must shift to a harder gear to generate the increased power needed to keep up with the smart trainer riders. Most dumb trainer riders figure this out pretty quickly, though, and learn to shift as needed.
Smart trainer riders get a bit of a raw deal here, because they have no choice but to spin out in their hardest gear on fast downhills, while dumb trainer riders can fix their uphill challenges by shifting properly. But this is a necessary evil if Zwift wants to have lots of riders embracing the platform.
What’s the solution for smart trainer riders? Lower the difficulty slider to 25-40%. This will make hills seem less steep, and allow you to put more power into the downhills. Give it a try and mess around with the setting until it feels good to you.
For more on this topic, read Hanging with the Group Over Gradient Changes.
Should I Change My Trainer Difficulty Setting?
No need to change the setting if you are happy with the “feel” of your rides in Zwift and you aren’t struggling with yo-yoing in and out of the pack on group rides. If you think you’d like to adjust it, though, go ahead and give it a try–you can always set it back to 50%.
Hello,
I have an Wahho Kickr Snap but on Zwift I cannot feel the hills !
On Kinomap I feel the hills very good.
But on Zwift I can drive a whole Loop on London with one gear.
Can anybody help me?
Sorry, for my bad english but I am austrian and normally I speak german.
Edmund
Make sure you’ve got your Kickr paired as a “controllable trainer” on Zwift. And make sure you aren’t connected to it via any other devices (for instance, bluetooth on your phone) otherwise they may be controlling it, and not Zwift.
Lastly–try contact Zwift support. They can help you out!
I have a Wahoo Kickr and had to set the difficulty to around 35%. The first time up to the radio tower, I was grinding at 50 rpm with 34f/28r which never happens for me in real life even on steep pitches.
Hi! I have a Kickr Power Trainer but on my zwift iphone app and on apple tv this option of changing the trainer difficulty doesnt show. Is it something for computer users only or am I missing something? Thanx!
Do I need to adjust this before every ride? is there a way to set as default at 100%?
The setting is saved on the computer you set it on, so as long as you’re using the same computer every time, it should stay wherever you leave it.
If I am in a group ride , workout or race, should my difficulty adjustment be the same as everyone I am riding with? I would think especially so in a race?
Well, I suppose that would be ideal, sure. But there’s no way of knowing what everyone else has (unless you’re in a small group of friends I guess.)
Are you saying the Radio Tower Climb can be even harder :-0
Like Bruce Hill said above, its feels hard enough as it is.
I can’t find a switch named Trainer Difficulty in my settings. I have a Wahoo Kicker. I hope you can help me but maybe there isn’t such a switch 🙂
It’s not a switch… it’s a slider, just like the image at the top of this post shows.
If you don’t have it, my guess is you don’t have your Kickr paired as a controllable trainer.
Have completed several rides on my first smart trainer, an Elite Direto. What I am finding is that on the flats I’m in a much harder gear than I would be on the rode. I’m using a compact (50-34) on the front and an 11-25 cassette. On the flats, I can switch to the large chainring (50), but can go no higher/harder than the 23 tooth ring on the cassette. If I shift to a harder ring on the cassette, my cadence drops to a level that I wouldn’t use IRL. As comparison, IRL I would typically ride the flats in say a 50-17 combo. Is this normal, or is there a setting that I’m not aware of? From what I can tell in this article, the trainer difficulty slider mostly affects the hills. Thanks for any info/insight.
1) Make sure the trainer isn’t paired to anything else
2) Try calibrating the trainer
Thanks.
I have calibrated the trainer.
What else would the trainer pair to? One thing I am wondering is that I have a Quarq power meter on my bike. Could the simultaneous pairing of the Quarq to Zwift be affecting the Direto’s interplay with Zwift?
Nah, should be fine. Your trainer could be paired to your phone via Bluetooth, and your computer via ANT+ (as an example). Those are the only ideas I’ve got, though–you’d need to talk to Zwift support if you need more! 🙂 Good luck!
I’ll check that. Thanks!
This could be a problem. I recently purchased a PowerTap wheel set, and had the set in the same room as my Kickr and the rest of the Zwift setup. I got very strange power readings, and the PowerTap did show up as a device I could pair to in Zwift. I removed the battery from the PowerTap hub and all was well.
so if i’m uploading my zwift rides to strava along with my real world rides, and I want my efforts between real and zwift to be as comparable as possible, do I need to set the trainer difficulty slider to its maximum? reading this article makes me think that is correct, but the climbing efforts i’ve experienced so far don’t feel that far off from being realistic, my average riding speeds on zwift are faster, but don’t have a real world power meter and I feel like i’ve been riding with a lot more intensitiy on zwift because the power number is staring straight at me
Your efforts will be whatever you put into the pedals–the trainer difficulty setting doesn’t determine that. It just affects how often you shift!
Hi Eric
Thanks for the clear explanation. Yet I think that for races, difficulty setting should be at 100%. It s much easier to pump a given wattage at your cadence than grinding IMHO. at least for me. Sustaining 250 Watts at 90 rpm is super easy, but at 30 its a torture.
Maybe I’m using the wrong words….if I average 8 mph up a 6% grade outside, and i want to average 8 mph up a 6% grade in zwift….both at the same effort level, do I need the slider at maximum ? (I am using a wahoo kickr)
Again: your efforts will be whatever you put into the pedals–the trainer difficulty setting doesn’t determine that. It just affects which gear you’ll ride in.
Very helpful comments in this thread. I am having similar issues that I find really confusing.
I ride a compact 50-34 chainring and a 11-27 cassette.
I have a 2017 Kickr Snap and I perform a standard spindown using the Wahoo Fitness app for iOS before every ride. (I don’t have the advanced calibration option as the new firmware apparently addresses the issue.) My Snap is paired only to an iPad via the app.
I have set the Trainer Difficulty to about 35%.
When climbing a 10% incline in Zwift, I find myself in a 50-17 gear, spinning at a cadence of about 90rpm, putting out around 170 Watts, and traveling at 3mph.
This is very different from a real road ride, where I wouldn’t possibly run that gear, cadence and speed combination. I may be going 3mph and spinning at 90rpm, but I’ll be in a 34-27 gear.
Despite all the good insights in this thread, I still don’t understand what’s happening here. Is my trainer in need of some form of advanced calibration, do I need to adjust my trainer difficulty, or am I experiencing normal behavior?
Thanks a lot for your help and advice!
Crickets…must be a quiet thread…
Anyway — found how to do an advanced spindown on the newer Snap model (not obvious in the current iOS app) and saw a small change to my brake loading value.
More importantly, I adjusted Zwift’s Trainer Difficulty setting from about 35% to about 70% and this made a huge difference. I’m now using my entire gear set on certain climbs. Much more realistic…and painful, but in a good way.
Glad that worked. I find the climbing to be realistic with the trainer difficulty set to a high percentage. It’s the flats where the power curve seems to be off (too hard). Oh well, can’t have everything in life. Brooks
I have a Kickr2016. I find that when doing the Beginner 6 week FTP program, and setting the trainer in ERG mode that sometimes Zwift will ask for a wattage, say 90, and the trainer will respond with 90, and not allow me to change much, adjusting cadence as expected. Other times Zwift will ask for a wattage, say 100, and the trainer will respond with 98. No matter my cadence, I am locked to the 98. The response is always 2-3 watts less than the requested if there is an offset. I found that if I hit page-up a couple of times, the response will increase, so that Zwift is asking for 100 and the trainer is responding with 100. Is this normal? I would think Zwift would tell the trainer 100, and the trainer would set a level of 100. What am I missing here?
Perfect….I’m getting surgery on my right shoulder on Monday and I’m hoping to be able to ride long before I’m able to shift so I’m seeing a temporary zero setting for my Kickr Snap in my immediate future.
I’ve long wondered about the training effect simulating hill grades on different muscle groups… but haven’t found much info on it after a quick google. My hypothesis: instantaneous (unaveraged) pedal velocity and force is not equal when pushing 350 Watts up a 10% grade at 70 rpm versus pushing 350W on the flat with the same cadence. This might be because you have more inertia on the flat so you lose a lower proportion of your momentum around the stroke through the “dead spot” … whereas climbing you lose a greater proportion of your momentum during you weaker part of the stroke… which could lead to a different, more varied, force and velocity profile around the stroke compared to the situation on the flat….
However, not a sports scientist so not sure what this means in terms of specific training effects… but if you are training for large climbs, maybe better to have the difficulty up and raise the front end of the bike to change how you support your weight? Any opinions?
My thought is that everyone has an optimal pedal force/cadence combination when you are forced to switch gears you are not at an optimal combination all the time since you don’t have an infinite number of gears. The result is you have to work harder for the same result. For me, riding the same course on zwift at 0 percent difficulty vs.a ride at the standard 50% resulted in a lower average watts but a shorter elapsed time.
Hi all, I have a Tacx Vortex and when riding hills above 7% with the trainer difficulty setting at the standard half way point, Zwift doesn’t seem to recognise the output I’m producing. No matter how hard I ride my power drops to approx 80 watts and 2mph. If I pedal harder or softer the reading remains the same. When the gradient drops to say 6% all of a sudden the readings return to normal (power goes up and so does speed)
As a result I can’t ride the big climbs in Watopia as it would take me hours to complete them and I can’t race as I get dropped instantly.
To overcome this I have found dropping the trainer difficulty to around 20% results in what I consider to be a realistic power output and speed. It goes up when I push hard and down when I ease off, as you would expect, and does so no matter the gradient. But I feel like I’m cheating as I have the trainer difficulty turned down low. Any ideas how to overcome this?
I’m currently investigating why I get momentary power drops with my kickr snap. I’ve noticed a lot of times that this happens when there’s an elevation change… I’ve also seen 7 percent figuring prominently in this. It even happens when I’ve set the trainer difficulty to zero so shifting isn’t factoring in.
I’ve got a new ant+sensor coming in case it’s that (I locate the sensor about 10 inches from the trainer) but I don’t think that this is the issue since my cadence (Garmin) and heart rate (Garmin) aren’t dropping ever.
That’s wierd, I have 5he opposite with my tacx vortex. At 50% my watts are lower going up to the tower but 100% difficulty and my watts are higher. If I did 20% it would take me forever.
Is this just equivalent to changing the rear cassette ? ie if you have a 28 and want to make it feel like a 32 you can just tweak the trainer difficulty ?
I use it that way. I have 53/39 12/25 and I have set it to 60%. That allow me to use the whole range of gears as in relation life. That is more important than being fast in Zwift for me.
actually, it is more like changing the radius of your wheel since both your high and low gears have lower development. This physics in this article is seriously wrong. Changing this setting is no different than changing your gearing set up, hill feel easier but you don’t go as fast.
just encounter a strange thing. My Taxc utility program shows a output of 300W and at the same time Zwift shows 250 W, and at Taxc 140 W, Zwift shows 160 W. Bushido Smart freshly calibrated. Whats going on ?
Best explanation that I have read. Thanks. I have a 34 front/25 rear on my Wahoo Kickr set up but when I ride the climbs in Europe I have a 36/32 on my road bike IRL. I am happy to get the higher cadence on Alpe du Zwift that a 50% Trainer Difficultly setting provides without needing a long arm derailleur and cogs on the back.
So… what trainer difficulty % do I set to mimic the real world?
I run a compact chainset with an 11/28 cassette and if I want the trainer to match the real work of that setup, so that for example, if I were to tackle Alpe d’Huez in real life, it wouldn’t be massively different.
Anyone know what gearing 100% Trainer Difficulty is set to mimic?
Set it to 100% to mimic the real world. Trainer Difficulty isn’t set to mimic any gearing–it’s just set to mimic how much you feel the gradient changes. 100% means you’ll feel a 10% gradient as 10%. 50% means you’ll feel a 10% gradient as 5%.