“Sugar Cookie” Route Details (Watopia)
One of the eight routes released with Zwift’s October 2023 southern coast expansion, this loop is the sweeter, shorter sister to Shorelines and Summits.
One of the eight routes released with Zwift’s October 2023 southern coast expansion, this loop is the sweeter, shorter sister to Shorelines and Summits.
Route Basics
Length: 33.6 km (20.9 miles)
Elevation: 250 m (820‘)
Lead-In: 5.4 km (3.4 miles)
Map: Watopia
Start & Finish
Begins with a lead-in from the Jungle pens to the route's start/finish line, the Jungle arch.
Restriction: Level 10+
Achievement Badge: 660 XP
Strava Segments
Route Description
Begin near the Jungle pens and descend down to the Jungle arch, where this route officially begins.
Turn a quick right and you’re on the new southern coastal road where you can enjoy the twists, sprints, and scenery of Sandy Coast, Ciudad La Cumbre, the Evergreen Coast, and Googie Springs.
Then it’s time to make your way over to the base of the Epic KOM, where you’ll climb just a bit, head over the bridge, then turn right onto the Epic KOM Bypass road for a scenic and flat spin across the bottom of the Epic’s slopes.
From there you don’t have much left! Just head over to the Jungle and hit the dirt for a dusty descent (wave hello to the sloth) to the Jungle arch, where the route ends.
It’s so annoying that long lead-in through the jungle.
nobody likes the jungle because you need to change bike. If you don’t you will cruise at 15 km/h in a descend.
Zwift forcing us to use the Jungle
15km/h is a bit of an exaggeration… I rode it yesterday and was descending at 35-40km/h in zone 2 (around 200W).
That said, word is Zwift will be speeding up the jungle dirt on the next release.
more speed in the Jungle sounds great Eric 🤗 … the scenery there is so awesome but the slow dirt keep many riders away … it would be fantastic if ZHQ would change the dirt into fresh tarmac and/or would create a nearby startpen at e.g. Col du Saddle Springs to start downhill only a few meters away from the coast entry 😎
i so agree, jungle used to be my favorite loop, but since they changed to dirt, i might have done it 4 or 5 times if that, mainly just to get to the alp
Which basically leads the question why have dirt in the first place. For looks ok yep but all surfaces should be the same
With the new Zwift controllers it’s very easy to stop the bike fast and change to mtb. After that you Can ride faster than the other riders😉
But can you, though? https://zwiftinsider.com/crr-changes-nov-2023/
Amen! Road bikes and dirt surfaces do not work well in real life. They shouldn’t be a necessity in Zwift either.
It would be great if Zwift added a macro to enable faster bike changes on the fly without having to wait for your bike to coast to a stop (no brakes).
Always change uphill
Or if you have a keyboard handy just hit the a key. It takes you to the pairing screen but stops your avatar pretty quickly. X out of the pairing screen and press t and that should take you directly to your garage. But it’s true you can’t change bikes or wheels until you’re stopped.
I use stream deck on a PC. Once stopped I can swap in a few seconds. Fairly bullet proof. Bikes at the bottom of the list take longer to swap to since you have to scroll through all the other bike. I have also programmed the stream deck to stop the bike, send frequently used messages, open a message in voice to text and send it, change my hat, turn on fans, control my music, control discord …
This is interesting. Might be a solution to decrease time for swapping.👌
It used to be quicker but this specifically made it harder (bike swaps don’t correspond to anything realistic and aren’t an element that adds any fun “ooh, I tapped those keys so quick to change my bike, fun!”) so I doubt they are going to do that.
Dude, you have to gut it out and suffer. If you aren’t heaving up internal organs when you ride, you not riding hard enough. Life starts in the climb portal.
I disagree. “Hill” is cycling’s four letter word. On the outdoor rides that I lead, I limit climbing to a max of fifty feet per mile. Both my riders and I are a lot happier that way.
only 50 ? That’s a little too ez.
Not for my crew–most of whom are in their mid-70s.
The new Zwift controllers Can do the job. They have the brakes build-in.
Where is Zwift coming up with there estimated duration for these new routes? This is a 40km route with 250m of climbing, on some non-asphalt roads and the estimate less than 60 minutes? The other new routes seem to have similar estimates where you would need to be able to average > 40km/h
+1 for this. I was kind of shocked at how slow some of the segments seem to be and ended the ride early because I was squeezed for time.
All the sprints on the new roads are so long. 500m?!?!? GTFO with that nonsense.
I’m ok going through the Jungle as long as it’s 90% downhill to the Southern Coast Road. Good idea
We created a meetup with the companion app at Sugar cookie. We expected that when riding the automatic chosen distance in the app, 34,6 km, we would complete the route and receive the badge, because the Sugar cookie segment distance at Strava is 33,6 km (Sugar Cookie | Strava Virtual Ride Segment in Temotu, Solomon Islands). But we didnt. We know that there is a lead-in at 5,4 km but since the distance in the app was just a little longer, 34,6 km, than the segment, 33,6 km, we thought it just skipped the lead-in, and started the meetup just… Read more »
Is that the only route that takes the bypass westbound? I’ve done most routes but Strava thinks that’s the first time I’ve been along it that way. If so its sorely underused – it’s a bit downhill that way so its quick and a great “view”. As for those whinging the downhill jungle is slow on a road bike, I’m not sure what they’re on about: cruised down at 20mph twice, so the same for me as I was doing on flat asphalt.
Yup. I agree, seems like a waste! We’ve got a Rebel Route we’re publishing this week that uses it…
We are cyclists, aren’t we? Personally, I am of the opinion that more resistance makes me stronger, hills harder and sprints are pure fun. Make cycling harder and everybody wins. Do not complain by just RIDE ON!