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    Rebel Route: Big Flat 8

    Eric Schlange
    By Eric Schlange
    November 8, 2021
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    Our newest Rebel Route was actually created several months back – we just never got around to putting together a post about it! 575 riders have already done the route, according to Strava. And there are some impressive times on the Veloviewer Leaderboard! (If you can do this in under 40 minutes, that’s a very strong effort.)

    Our goal was to find a long, flat route on Watopia without riding over the same tarmac again and again. At 3.04 meters of climb per kilometer of distance, this is the flattest route on Watopia, apart from Tempus Fugit. And it’s much more scenic! Hope you enjoy it.

    About Rebel Routes

    “Rebel Routes” are Zwift rides which are not available on Zwift’s routes list, thus requiring manual navigation.

    See all rebel routes >

    The reward for your rebel ride? Exploring a new route, knowing you’ve gone where few Zwifters have gone before. And a Strava segment rank in the tens or hundreds instead of the thousands! They are included as a separate category on our Veloviewer Route Hunter leaderboard.

    Route Description

    This route is essentially a mashup between Watopia’s Tick Tock and Volcano Flat routes.

    Watopia’s Fuego Flats stone arch/banner is your start/finish line. From there you’ll ride through the desert, descend through the redwoods to Ocean Boulevard, then make your way to downtown Watopia and the “Volcano Flat” portion of the ride.

    Ride the slight ramp up to the glass bridge, then around the base of the Volcano and up the Dirty Sorpressa. Pro tip: if you’re chasing a good time on this route, this is the most important place to hit the watts hard and keep your speed up.

    Then we climb past the waterfall before descending to the Fishing Village and back into the Ocean Boulevard tunnel. (This is the only repeated road on the route.)

    Turn right after climbing out of the tunnel and take the slight uphill back to the Fuego Flats start/finish. All done!

    Profile

    The profile makes this route look more pitchy than it really is. With only 89m (292′) of climbing across 29.2km (18.1 miles), this is a fairly flat route.

    Getting Started + Lead-In

    The easiest way to get onto this circuit is to choose “Tick Tock” from your Watopia route options. This will properly route you until you have to stay straight (left) instead of turning right to head back toward Fuego Flats after climbing out of the Ocean Boulevard tunnel.

    Turn by Turn

    Here are the turns you’ll need to make to successfully complete the Big Flat 8, beginning in Fuego Flats at the start/finish arch:

    1. Straight (Right) to Epic KOM
    2. Straight (Left) to Epic KOM
    3. Right to Sequoia Circle
    4. Right to Downtown
    5. Straight (left) to Downtown
    6. Right to Downtown
    7. Right to Volcano Circuit
    8. Right to Volcano Circuit CCW
    9. Straight (Right) to Volcano Circuit
    10. Straight (Right) to Italian Villas
    11. Right to 360 Bridge
    12. Right to Sequoia Circle
    13. Left to Sequoia Circle
    14. Left (Straight) to Downtown
    15. Right to Desert Flats
    16. Left (Straight) to Desert Flats

    Route details:
    Distance: 29.2km (18.1 miles)
    Elevation Gain: 89m (292′)
    Strava Segment

    Rebel Route Suggestions

    Got an idea for a great rebel route? Share it below and maybe we’ll publish a post about it!

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      Jim
      Jim
      1 year ago

      Just created my first workout this weekend. Not perfect but it worked well. It would be get to have a create your own route. Maybe some type of map interface and you drag a bike icon over it..

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      Jimmy
      Jimmy
      1 year ago
      Reply to  Jim

      Yeah this has long been a requested item. Once you start getting all the route badges it gets a bit samey, and although you can of course manually change direction, it would be great to have user created routes to create and even share with others.

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      PockD
      PockD
      1 year ago
      Reply to  Jim

      Its insane that creating custom routes still hasn’t been implemented as a feature. Having to navigate turn by turn manually over and over is bonkers.

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      Owen
      Owen
      1 year ago

      I’m having fun trying to put one together at the moment. I started off on a long workout trying to cover as many roads as possible without going over any tarmac more than once to keep myself interested and turned into quite a nice point to point style route: Start off selecting volcano circuit and it puts you on the glass bridge towards the volcano. Round the volcano (can go up and down as well if you’re feeling adventurous but I counted back and forth along the same bit of road as touching it twice) and out towards Italian Villas.… Read more »

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      Helmut Jung
      Helmut Jung
      1 year ago

      And if you go at turn 11 left towards the sprint and after the sprint turn right on the new spangle and at the end of this new spangle turn right towards Italian villas and on the next possibility turn left towards the fishing village you might have over 30 km.

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      Helmut Jung
      Helmut Jung
      1 year ago
      Reply to  Helmut Jung

      My variation of this route has 32.5 km till the arch in the desert. But there was some trouble turning right at the end of the new spangle between Sprint and 360Bridge.

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      Evan
      Evan
      1 year ago

      Why are so many routes called an “8”?

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      Jimmy
      Jimmy
      1 year ago
      Reply to  Evan

      Because they are a figure 8 shape.

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      Charles Brisson
      Charles Brisson
      1 year ago

      #10. Make it “Straight (right) to Italian Villas`. Good ride

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      Eric Schlange
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      Eric Schlange(@eschlange)
      1 year ago
      Reply to  Charles Brisson

      Ah, good catch! Fixed.

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      Bill Goold
      Bill Goold
      1 year ago

      I have two longer flat routes I like: 1) Tick Tock/Fuego Flats 8:. Do tick tock and continue through the sprint barrier to the turnaround in saddle springs. Turnaround and go back through Fuego flats and past the sprint barrier. From there do the whole tick tock backwards with the end coming when reach the Fuego flats sprint banner again. 2) Greater London flat 8: Start with regular greater London flat and proceed through most of the route. At Trafalgar square, instead of going back towards Buckingham palace, continue straight towards bib ben. Then, turn right to do the mall… Read more »

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      Dave Laird
      Dave Laird
      1 year ago

      @Eric Schlange says “If you can do this in under 40 minutes, that’s a very strong effort.” And what’s my time? 40:01. *lol* *facepalm* Adrian and Thomas put down some really phenomenal times on this route.

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      Eric Schlange
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      Eric Schlange(@eschlange)
      1 year ago
      Reply to  Dave Laird

      So close!

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      rdcyclist (Mark Crane)
      rdcyclist (Mark Crane)(@rdcyclist)
      1 year ago

      Looks great. I’m gonna hafta set this one up as a standard. I will say, Mileages (Kilometerages?) for each turn would be helpful…

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      Eric Schlange
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      Eric Schlange(@eschlange)
      1 year ago
      Reply to  rdcyclist (Mark Crane)

      But that’s part of the fun! I can’t make it too easy…

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      Derek
      Derek(@dpr4473)
      1 year ago

      Zwift should really start adding these “Rebel Routes” to their list of route options. I really don’t see what the big deal is. It’s almost like they don’t like to use good idea thought up by people who aren’t them. I don’t even know why they have the Feedback and Suggestions on their site forums — I really don’t think they listen much at all to what their subscribers have to say.

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      F Reiter
      F Reiter
      1 year ago

      At #14 (second time at Sequoia Circle) turn right towards Fuego Flats and ride everything in reverse to complete a 60km pretzel.

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      danbodden@hotmail.com
      [email protected]
      1 year ago

      Noticed the empty badge icon for Eastern 8 in my Badge profile – thought I’d give it a try. Rode it as per directions, no badge. ??

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